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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonCajun View Post
    _ For a school needing to increase revenue, UL just doesn't get it when it comes to marketing. We could sell UL Ragin Cajun gear all over the country if we just marketed it. No Lafayette. And, not just Ragin Cajuns without UL. There needs to be a connection to the university. _
    No you can't sale official gear with UL Ragin'Cajuns licensed by the univeristy all over the country, without Lafayette on it. As much as I would like it to, this univeristy is not going fight another legal battle costing hundreds of thousands of dollars. Unless you have some money in an offshore account from Barney Marnoff, what you ask is not going to happen.

    I think some of you just don't get it. We live in Louisiana, not Houston,Texas. Don't blame the univeristy for followlling a law that was passed by the legislature and the sitting governor at the time. The connection you seek would cost this univeristy money it doesn't have right now. How you and others can't understand that, is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    _ No you can't sale official gear with UL Ragin'Cajuns licensed by the univeristy all over the country, without Lafayette on it. As much as I would like it to, this univeristy is not going fight another legal battle costing hundreds of thousands of dollars. Unless you have some money in an offshore account from Barney Marnoff, what you ask is not going to happen.

    I think some of you just don't get it. We live in Louisiana, not Houston,Texas. Don't blame the univeristy for followlling a law that was passed by the legislature and the sitting governor at the time. The connection you seek would cost this univeristy money it doesn't have right now. How you and others can't understand that, is beyond me. _
    lol, i think you mean Madoff.

    I have a two hats, one vermillion, one grey. Both have UL on the front nd Ragin Cajuns on the back. Just a little food for thought. I would imagine they are both licensed, they have NCAA tags on the inside rim,

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    _ No you can't sale official gear with UL Ragin'Cajuns licensed by the univeristy all over the country, without Lafayette on it. As much as I would like it to, this univeristy is not going fight another legal battle costing hundreds of thousands of dollars. Unless you have some money in an offshore account from Barney Marnoff, what you ask is not going to happen.

    I think some of you just don't get it. We live in Louisiana, not Houston,Texas. Don't blame the univeristy for followlling a law that was passed by the legislature and the sitting governor at the time. The connection you seek would cost this univeristy money it doesn't have right now. How you and others can't understand that, is beyond me. _

    Then, please explain why we put Louisiana and UL on our uniforms, put Louisiana on the football field, our SID is starting to use Louisiana and UL more exclusively in any news releases, we have asked publications like Phil Steele to call us Louisiana, etc. etc. Why are we doing all of that if not to capture the Louisiana name, athletically? Yet, we can't produce shirts and caps with UL and Louisiana. It makes no sense. That inconsistency has been my problem all along. Either we are going for the name or we aren't. Why the half-a**ed approach? Why do you call us UL and Louisiana? Why perpetuate the problem you say we can't overcome?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrudaCajun View Post
    _ lol, i think you mean Madoff.

    I have a two hats, one vermillion, one grey. Both have UL on the front nd Ragin Cajuns on the back. Just a little food for thought. I would imagine they are both licensed, they have NCAA tags on the inside rim, _
    I'm telling you, the name police are alive and well. Don't get too caught up on what you can buy locally. People think that this new President and AD department on sitting on their butt, not pushing "Louisiana" or UL, but nothing could be further from the truth. Our own Conference Commisioner has been fighting us on our request to be called "Louisiana". He has been sent formal letters requesting that his office do so, but has not complied. In our own conference, one member insitution continues to call an complain about our use of "Louisiana", which is perfectly legal. I can assure you, that there are people in this state that are not going to sit back and allow us to use UL without the city tag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonCajun View Post
    _ Then, please explain why we put Louisiana and UL on our uniforms, put Louisiana on the football field, our SID is starting to use Louisiana and UL more exclusively in any news releases, we have asked publications like Phil Steele to call us Louisiana, etc. etc. Why are we doing all of that if not to capture the Louisiana name, athletically? Yet, we can't produce shirts and caps with UL and Louisiana. It makes no sense. That inconsistency has been my problem all along. Either we are going for the name or we aren't. Why the half-a**ed approach? Why do you call us UL and Louisiana? Why perpetuate the problem you say we can't overcome? _
    Read my post above. I have personally sent emails to our commisioner on this matter and have yet to receive an honest reply. Lafayette is on the caps and batting helmets for softball and baseball. It is located on the back and it not noticeable when it is in the same color thread as the cap. Football has had Lafayette on the collar or the sleeve in the past. You may not notice it, but it is there to see up close. We are pushing the envelope on this matter by using "Louisiana", because it is in compliance with the law. This is why Phil Steele is using it in his publication. Any time we use UL without the city tag, another threatening letter is received. We can use "Louisiana" and continue to push it legally. We cannot use "UL" without the city tag, when others are threatening lawsuits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    _ I can assure you, that there are people in this state that are not going to sit back and allow us to use UL without the city tag. _
    Oh, we both know that. It kinda sucks, but whatever. Let us embrace UL...L!!!

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    My question is why don't we just say to hell with the name police and just do it. Let them file legal action against the University, then contact any and all media outlets to get the word out on how idiotic this state acts sometimes.


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    Let's just change our name back to USL!!!

    We decided to change our name to UL because we didn't want the directional tag. We were granted that but were told that we would have to add "Lafayette." That is not what we wanted so why did we go through with it? Everything was good and no one was screaming about a name change when we were USL. Lets change it back and simply drop the "western" in the name. Univ. of South Louisiana sounds good.

    It seems that we won't ever be allowed to use UL or Louisiana alone. LSU and ULM won't let it happen and I understand why. It aggravates the crap out of me that we don't even know who we are. You ask some university officials and they will say UL Lafayette sometimes and UL others. I sent an email to Farmer a while back asking him "WHO ARE WE." He responded not long after stating that "We are Louisiana's Ragin' Cajuns." I asked him about the 's and I got no response. Now if I were to ask someone else on campus they may say that we are UL Lafayette.

    So going back to USL is the perfect solution. ULM never wanted to change their name so I'm sure they would have no problem going back to NLU. I know......it's only wishful thinking on my part and will never happen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cjr3888 View Post
    _ My question is why don't we just say to hell with the name police and just do it. Let them file legal action against the University, then contact any and all media outlets to get the word out on how idiotic this state acts sometimes. _
    YES!
    Any pub is good pub!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjr3888 View Post
    _ My question is why don't we just say to hell with the name police and just do it. Let them file legal action against the University, then contact any and all media outlets to get the word out on how idiotic this state acts sometimes. _
    I understand your sentiment but I can't see that as a viable course of action. I don't know that the national media would pick up on it and even if they did State is one of their national favorites so I don't expect that they would take up our cause. And as far as the media within the state, they aren't much more than an extension of tigger rag so any mention of the isue would be biased against us. I mean can anyone really see the Times-Picayune, Morning Advocate or Shreveport Times taking our side over State in this issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunCanaille View Post
    _ Let's just change our name back to USL!!!

    We decided to change our name to UL because we didn't want the directional tag. We were granted that but were told that we would have to add "Lafayette." That is not what we wanted so why did we go through with it? Everything was good and no one was screaming about a name change when we were USL. Lets change it back and simply drop the "western" in the name. Univ. of South Louisiana sounds good.

    It seems that we won't ever be allowed to use UL or Louisiana alone. LSU and ULM won't let it happen and I understand why. It aggravates the crap out of me that we don't even know who we are. You ask some university officials and they will say UL Lafayette sometimes and UL others. I sent an email to Farmer a while back asking him "WHO ARE WE." He responded not long after stating that "We are Louisiana's Ragin' Cajuns." I asked him about the 's and I got no response. Now if I were to ask someone else on campus they may say that we are UL Lafayette.

    So going back to USL is the perfect solution. ULM never wanted to change their name so I'm sure they would have no problem going back to NLU. I know......it's only wishful thinking on my part and will never happen. _

    No, I disagree with you on the use of "Louisiana". This clearly is not in violation of the law, although some have tried to argue that point. I haven't heard any flack coming from LSU, as long as "UL" is used with the city tag. But several UL-System schools are still creating problems, one in particular in the Sun Belt. We are doing the right thing legally with "Louisiana", but its far from over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer58 View Post
    And as far as the media within the state, they aren't much more than an extension of tigger rag so any mention of the isue would be biased against us. I mean can anyone really see the Times-Picayune, Morning Advocate or Shreveport Times taking our side over State in this issue? _
    Excellent point. But then add in the LakeChuck type media who are forever preaching "know you place' and I say, what the heck, we are close to making the best of the situation already.

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