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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissingMandy View Post
    As a parent, of course education is the most important factor but athletics at the DIV 1 level is far more then just "entertainment". It is a powerful tool that if successful provides huge monetary gains for the university and the community as well. _
    This concept is lost on so many people. Athletics, in public universities, is a major vehicle for connecting the students, alumni and the community to the university. The experiment is over. The results are in. The status of a university is a culmination of many things. By fortifying a large substantial base of student, alumni and community support (much of which is socially bound through athletics) you stockpile political authority. That political authority comes in mighty handy when you address matters affecting your academic health.

    When I confront people at UL that do not get this concept, it makes me realize how they are not as academically gifted as they would have you believe. I don't mind using some of our small excuses to abuse an outside attacker... but when we are privately confering amongst ourselves... let's put the facts out on the table. We need to shore up our ties with "our university community"... and it needs to be done through our already publicized title sponsor... the UL Ragin Cajun athletic system.

    As for the student fee situation, I have a proposal for Dr. Savoie... I know full well you are loyal to the mission of making Louisiana higher education as affordable as possible to all qualified students. I commend you for that. It is time to get creative. It is time to support a student fee for athletics to initiate student stockholders in our athletic system. In conjunction with this new fee, RCAF will form a committee of members (that includes students) that will review well written submissions from students requesting relief from this financial burden. All qualified students will be re-imbursed from RCAF. As part of the admission for student fee assistance, you will waive your right to an investigation of your student lifestyle. If it is found that you are not honest in your submission, you will pay your student athletic fee and the fee of one other truly qualified student.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzpop View Post
    _ I realize that this is a forum devoted to athletics and therefore most posts will be from that perspective. But, can I possibly be the only person here who thinks that the primary purpose of the university should be to provide a quality education? With all of the crying needs that Louisiana's colleges have, LSU included, the notion of tuition increases to support athletics abosultely unreal. I enjoy watching a game as much as anyone, but
    there's a huge difference between asking folks to pay more to provide their kids with a decent education and asking for money so that we can be entertained. Does anyone else here have kids in college? _
    I could not agree with you more. I think Louisiana ought to concentrate on beefing up funding for higher education, rather than asking students and their families to pay an extra tuition charge for athletics. We have a daughter who will graduate from UT-Austin on May 22nd (Civil Engineering). She was a recipient of several scholarships. Other than her apartment etc., I have paid very little to send her to Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    _ This concept is lost on so many people. Athletics, in public universities, is a major vehicle for connecting the students, alumni and the community to the university. The experiment is over. The results are in. The status of a university is a culmination of many things. By fortifying a large substantial base of student, alumni and community support (much of which is socially bound through athletics) you stockpile political authority. That political authority comes in mighty handy when you address matters affecting your academic health.

    When I confront people at UL that do not get this concept, it makes me realize how they are not as academically gifted as they would have you believe. I don't mind using some of our small excuses to abuse an outside attacker... but when we are privately confering amongst ourselves... let's put the facts out on the table. We need to shore up our ties with "our university community"... and it needs to be done through our already publicized title sponsor... the UL Ragin Cajun athletic system.

    As for the student fee situation, I have a proposal for Dr. Savoie... I know full well you are loyal to the mission of making Louisiana higher education as affordable as possible to all qualified students. I commend you for that. It is time to get creative. It is time to support a student fee for athletics to initiate student stockholders in our athletic system. In conjunction with this new fee, RCAF will form a committee of members (that includes students) that will review well written submissions from students requesting relief from this financial burden. All qualified students will be re-imbursed from RCAF. As part of the admission for student fee assistance, you will waive your right to an investigation of your student lifestyle. If it is found that you are not honest in your submission, you will pay your student athletic fee and the fee of one other truly qualified student. _
    This is the perfect depiction of how Athletics and Education go hand-in-hand. Very well articulated. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loup_garou View Post
    I could not agree with you more. I think Louisiana ought to concentrate on beefing up funding for higher education, rather than asking students and their families to pay an extra tuition charge for athletics. We have a daughter who will graduate from UT-Austin on May 22nd (Civil Engineering). She was a recipient of several scholarships. Other than her apartment etc., I have paid very little to send her to Texas.
    I understand the argument.

    Couple of interesting facts.

    UT averages spending $210,000 PER athlete each year. That was from 2007.

    UT charges $70.00 for a student athletic pass.

    UT athletics is fully self-funded but some estimate they are one of only approximately ten such programs in the country.

    http://www.statesman.com/sports/cont...portsmain.html

    For those interested the Knight Commission is a good place to start.

    http://www.knightcommission.org/

    I think there eventually has to be some middle ground between the massive spending of some and the miniscule budgets of others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loup_garou View Post
    _ I could not agree with you more. I think Louisiana ought to concentrate on beefing up funding for higher education, rather than asking students and their families to pay an extra tuition charge for athletics. We have a daughter who will graduate from UT-Austin on May 22nd (Civil Engineering). She was a recipient of several scholarships. Other than her apartment etc., I have paid very little to send her to Texas. _
    You are comparing apples to oranges.

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissingMandy View Post
    _ You are comparing apples to oranges. _
    I think he is trying to say that he saved so many "apples and oranges" with his daughter's inexpensive education at UT that he is going to donate a megaload of "apples and oranges" to RCAF. I love how creative Cajun fans are at saving and securing assets all over the country in order to place that capital back into our system.

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    Cajun 90's middle ground needs to come from bowl revenue that is divided by the biggies from their share of money paid out ---some of this money needs to be given to the non-BCS schools---Doesn't have to be close to being divided equally----but a million to UL would help!!!!!!


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