Something I noticed about Jay Walker & BEV

[CajunRebel]

Not that this thread hasn't already gone completely off topic from the original post....Jay Walker not talking about the Cajuns after a lost, but I do have a question with regards to Cajuns, conference association, and recruiting.

And this may not be the best place to ask, but here goes.

Would being associated with another (more prestigious) conference (other than CUSA) automatically upgrade the Cajuns recruiting possibilities? Would conference affiliation get the coaches foot in the door of more 4 star and 5 star recruits?

Or no matter the conference, UL will always get the same type of athletes with an occasional 3 star billing?

Just curious?

I think it absolutely would help recruiting.

The Sun Belt is part of our problem. When you get an offer from a Sun Belt team and a SEC team, there's not much to decide on.

[CajunRebel]

After the 3 previous seasons, a win against Tech and competing (like we did with Blaine in Ok St and TB at Florida) in the Mississippi game,you would not be making this statement.

I would.

That's a huge mountain to climb. Huge. And we only decided to start climbing a few years ago.

[ManAboutTown]

I would.

That's a huge mountain to climb. Huge. And we only decided to start climbing a few years ago.

I hear you, but it's one thing to have consistent success against big time programs and a completely different (and not unrealistic expectation) thing to compete. Have the game
In doubt pass the first 5 minutes.

[CajunRebel]

I hear you, but it's one thing to have consistent success against big time programs and a completely different (and not unrealistic expectation) thing to compete. Have the game
In doubt pass the first 5 minutes.

Define compete?

Are you looking for moral victories here?

[Bandwagon King]

Define compete?

Are you looking for moral victories here?

Short of winning, HELL YES! that's exactly what I'm looking for. Because those moral victories tell me as a fan, a player, or a coach that while I'm not where I want to be, I sure as hell aint where I was. Here's a toast to moral victories. The only ones who have no use for them are champions, & idiots. Until we're national champions I'll take moral victories all day long. That is unless I already knew I could have won & was winning, & didn't win because I took the ball out of my kids hands.

For the record: I had no problems with the moral victories of our baseball & softball programs last season. While we're at it, I didn't have any problem with the moral victory our basketball program had. And I don't recall Jay having any problem with those either.

[ManAboutTown]

Define compete?

Are you looking for moral victories here?

I qualified my comment. 2 of the 3 times we
Played Okie St, we competed Reb. In Cajun field, 21-17 at half. When we went to their place and BG played well, we were in that game for the majority of it. We COMPETED. LaTech dominated us in our own facility. Ole Miss had 250 yards AT THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTERRRR.. There's nothing moral about it.. You can't do that against air.

[ManAboutTown]

Short of winning, HELL YES! that's exactly what I'm looking for. Because those moral victories tell me as a fan, a player, or a coach that while I'm not where I want to be, I sure as hell aint where I was. Here's a toast to moral victories. The only ones who have no use for them are champions, & idiots. Until we're national champions I'll take moral victories all day long. That is unless I already knew I could have won & was winning, & didn't win because I took the ball out of my kids hands.

For the record: I had no problems with the moral victories of our baseball & softball programs last season. While we're at it, I didn't have any problem with the moral victory our basketball program had. And I don't recall Jay having any problem with those either.

On the flip side, for those who are against moral victories.. What's better: coming home with a perceived moral victory and something to build on or coming home with absolutely nothing. More questions, more confusion, more frustration and no confidence..

I'll take the moral victory please.

[duggie85]

I qualified my comment. 2 of the 3 times we
Played Okie St, we competed Reb. In Cajun field, 21-17 at half. When we went to their place and BG played well, we were in that game for the majority of it. We COMPETED. LaTech dominated us in our own facility. Ole Miss had 250 yards AT THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTERRRR.. There's nothing moral about it.. You can't do that against air.

The one half you referenced against Ok State, Bustle was coaching that team.

Also confused how you can say we competed in '11 w/ Gautier at QB when we lost 61-34?? They damn near doubled our score.

P.S. I agree with you; I would def settle for a moral victory at this point of the season.

[ManAboutTown]

The one half you referenced against Ok State, Bustle was coaching that team.

Also confused how you can say we competed in '11 w/ Gautier at QB when we lost 61-34?? They damn near doubled our score.

P.S. I agree with you; I would def settle for a moral victory at this point of the season.

Regardless of the score, we played much better than that line indicates. Defense made plays, offense made plays. You got the feeling our players believed they could play with those guys and coaching staff coached to win. They pulled away late, but we were in the game.

I knew Bustle coached the first game. It was irrelevant to the point I was making about competing and it need being unrealistic to compete with bigger programs. May have crossed threads. If so, my bad.

[Just1More]

Define compete?

Are you looking for moral victories here?

No. I just don't accept demoralizing losses at this point. The tension on that rope we talk about has been pretty consistent for 3 plus years. It is absolutely NOT unrealistic to expect better performances at this juncture... even against much much better programs.