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    i have posted on this before---NEVER have I seen more injuries in an athletic program that I can remember------Just think back to last year in baseball and go to football(30 out) basketbaLL (early season maybe 5-6 out) back to baseball and let us not forget the lady softballers have had a few!!!! Guess ya'll could add even more to the list!!!!!!!


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    Look how fast those I's get dotted and the T's get crossed on the injury list, too!!!!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    _ i have posted on this before---NEVER have I seen more injuries in an athletic program that I can remember------Just think back to last year in baseball and go to football(30 out) basketbaLL (early season maybe 5-6 out) back to baseball and let us not forget the lady softballers have had a few!!!! Guess ya'll could add even more to the list!!!!!!! _
    Gerald, the excessive injuries we see to day in collegiate athletics are due, in part, to the walk, talk and breath thy sport 365 days a year by over-jealous coaches who do not understand that the human body can do only take so much. In other words, they are breaking down the bodies of these young poeple and not allowing them to totally heal before re-applying the same pressure that led to the initial injury.

    During the days you played, you had a life during the summer and still kicked the $%^& out of the ball following an injury. You were ALLOWED to heal. Today, atheltes are only ALLOWED to get back to "100%" when the coach and trainer feel like it, rather than when the BODY feels like it. The trainer is bending to the pressures (perceived) placed on them by the coaches to get palyers back on the court and playing field.

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    An all-american footballer at LSU (late 60s) told me that he never played without injury. He said he would not have known what it was like to play without pain. Is part of the "injury list" perhaps a protection measure? Schools have been sued for playing athletes with injuries. You see a lot of guys these days with bruises, pulls and sprains that would not be on an injury list 30 years ago.

    I also think the balance of conditioning in the past came thru running and calisthenics. Now, there is a huge amount of weight lifting and focus on adding mass. If building muscle tissue does not include 10 times more total conditioning... you are going to pull and sprain with very little effort. I think a lot of football players lift in the off-season, but do not do all-around conditioning.

    Add to the fact that kids are bigger and faster, but bones and tissue are made out of the same stuff... collisions and bad falls are going to introduce more injuries. JMO


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    IMO this is more of a "Garbage in, Garbage out" problem than a "Wax on, Wax off" issue.

    Ask the guy from LSU what he ate at the training table...

    UL ATHLETES DO NOT EAT PROPERLY SO THEIR DIET WILL NOT SUSTAIN AN ATHLETE!

    This is not because they make poor choices in diet, it's because only poor choices are available in their meal plan most of the time. You can "supplement" the spots off a dang Dalmation if you like, but it cannot make up for the fact that these guys do not have "training table" quality food available to them.

    Many of the injuries are coming after sustained efforts over a period of time. That means that over time, they are not properly replenished and their overall ability to perform is diminished and they have a greater exposure to injury as a result. With a proper diet they would have been able to last longer without being depleted and replenish themselves faster after they became depleted as well.

    Don't take my word for it, ask Coach Phillips if he would like to change what his guys eat. I am no expert, but he is; and I would bet my paycheck that he would enthusiastically agree...


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    Drumroll, the LSU guy mostly ate junk food and lots and lots of alcohol. But, like I said, he was injured all the time. He died year before last. Anyhow, I had no idea that there was a link to our athletes' injuries and poor diet. What is the solution? Can we not offer our athletes better meal arrangements?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunDawgPound View Post
    _ Gerald, the excessive injuries we see to day in collegiate athletics are due, in part, to the walk, talk and breath thy sport 365 days a year by over-jealous coaches who do not understand that the human body can do only take so much. In other words, they are breaking down the bodies of these young poeple and not allowing them to totally heal before re-applying the same pressure that led to the initial injury.

    During the days you played, you had a life during the summer and still kicked the $%^& out of the ball following an injury. You were ALLOWED to heal. Today, atheltes are only ALLOWED to get back to "100%" when the coach and trainer feel like it, rather than when the BODY feels like it. The trainer is bending to the pressures (perceived) placed on them by the coaches to get palyers back on the court and playing field. _

    I think you are on to something. The increased weight and strength of the players is also to blame. I have a crazy theory that the dramatic weight gains we saw in our football team last year caused more injuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drumroll View Post
    _ IMO this is more of a "Garbage in, Garbage out" problem than a "Wax on, Wax off" issue.

    Ask the guy from LSU what he ate at the training table...

    UL ATHLETES DO NOT EAT PROPERLY SO THEIR DIET WILL NOT SUSTAIN AN ATHLETE!

    This is not because they make poor choices in diet, it's because only poor choices are available in their meal plan most of the time. You can "supplement" the spots off a dang Dalmation if you like, but it cannot make up for the fact that these guys do not have "training table" quality food available to them.

    Many of the injuries are coming after sustained efforts over a period of time. That means that over time, they are not properly replenished and their overall ability to perform is diminished and they have a greater exposure to injury as a result. With a proper diet they would have been able to last longer without being depleted and replenish themselves faster after they became depleted as well.

    Don't take my word for it, ask Coach Phillips if he would like to change what his guys eat. I am no expert, but he is; and I would bet my paycheck that he would enthusiastically agree... _

    As a whole, I doubt our players eat any differently than the majority of players in larger programs all around the country do. They are 20 year old kids who are growing, they aren't concerned about eating chicken and broccoli. I don't think the eating habits of the players plays any type of role in these guys anyhow in its relation to injuries simply because the way these guys eat is not changing their body shape and putting them at risk for injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    _ As a whole, I doubt our players eat any differently than the majority of players in larger programs all around the country do. They are 20 year old kids who are growing, they aren't concerned about eating chicken and broccoli. I don't think the eating habits of the players plays any type of role in these guys anyhow in its relation to injuries simply because the way these guys eat is not changing their body shape and putting them at risk for injury. _

    Sorry Zephyr, but that's just plain silly. Many of them are EXTREMELY focused on eating properly, they take it very seriously. And yes, big programs do provide "training table" quality food to their athletes. The Chef at Vanderbilt who prepares the football team's meals is in no way superior to UL's offering of pizza and hamburgers, with fries of course. Can I link it to injuries with valid proof? No! Do Olympic athletes eat a diet of pizza and hamburgers? No! Does Coach Phillips like what the players are served?

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    I always thought that playing slightly out of position (not being in the best position) to make a play was the greatest contributor to getting injured.


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    Can we now add spring training to the list of injuries????/ Heard we were pretty beat up!!!!!!! the problem with playing hurt is that in trying to over compensate to avoid pain you become vulnerable to other injuries!!!! this is mostly done subconciously---Can't hide pain from yourself!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by drumroll View Post
    _ Sorry Zephyr, but that's just plain silly. Many of them are EXTREMELY focused on eating properly, they take it very seriously. And yes, big programs do provide "training table" quality food to their athletes. The Chef at Vanderbilt who prepares the football team's meals is in no way superior to UL's offering of pizza and hamburgers, with fries of course. Can I link it to injuries with valid proof? No! Do Olympic athletes eat a diet of pizza and hamburgers? No! Does Coach Phillips like what the players are served? _

    Many of the players here are focused on supplementing their diets with the supplement program that was recently administered last year. The basis of their diet is still probably largely consistent with fast food. These guys, especially inseason burn so many calories that they'd have to eat 10 times per day just to get their nutrients if they were eating strict, calorie-portioned diets. They supplement this with protein shakes, meal replacements and snack bars that are calorie dense but they are simply trying to maintain weight or even slightly gain it. As it is, many players are so conditioned through the season that they end up losing weight and fight to just stay close to where they want to be. Its not silly. Now, if you are talking about gameday eating and the day before a game, then there is I'm sure a much stricter regimen that is followed so they limit their sluggishness. However, to suggest that diet is a main contributor for injuries is just play silly.

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