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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunZ1 View Post
    _ Leelee Lee Lee Leee leleeleeleee.

    We're talking f#%n Lee... _
    lol!!! Any time you can work in a Tenacious D quote, you should get bonus points on this board!
    But I agree. New MBB coach = increased revenue for the school. New WBB coach improves the program but has little or no economic impact. In these tough economic times I think that is the only way to look at it.

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
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    I just have a problem with rewarding the biggest loser.
    All depends on your definition of the "biggest loser". I define the biggest loser as the one who had a much bigger program, rich with a history of success, with a load of fans, with many years in the system, with his own choice of players, and whose performance has a greater impact on the well-being of UL's athletic perception among its totality of followers... and has failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    _ No, that decision was Coach Lee's. The administration did not force him to go the high school route in recruiting.
    I just remember Wright Waters in a radio interview state he was going to pressure (or something similar) the Sun Belt athletic departments to quit relying so heavily on the JC route.

    It was soon after that interview that the big ONLY HS recruiting route for Ragin' CAjuns basketball was made public.

    Right or wrong I put the 2 together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    _ All depends on your definition of the "biggest loser". I define the biggest loser as the one who had a much bigger program, rich with a history of success, with a load of fans, with many years in the system, with his own choice of players, and whose performance has a greater impact on the well-being of UL's athletic perception among its totality of followers... and has failed. _
    If that's the case, we should fire Tony Robichaux. [Note my tongue is firmly in cheek].

    Seriously, Rogers has done to women's basketball what Baldwin did to football. Fortunately, one or two good classes well coached can fix basketball. I don't make a choice. I bite the bullet and fire both, even if I have to cut the football budget to do it. Improved attendance in MBB will pay for both firings; and improved perception of the program as a whole will help all sports.

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    _ If that's the case, we should fire Tony Robichaux. [Note my tongue is firmly in cheek].

    Seriously, Rogers has done to women's basketball what Baldwin did to football. Fortunately, one or two good classes well coached can fix basketball. I don't make a choice. I bite the bullet and fire both, even if I have to cut the football budget to do it. Improved attendance in MBB will pay for both firings; and improved perception of the program as a whole will help all sports. _
    You are right... both Lee and Rogers have earned a pink slip by any other program in the country's yardstick... but if you had to choose which one to do first... the bigger impact is with the MBB program. There is no room for debate in my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    _ You are right... both Lee and Rogers have earned a pink slip by any other program in the country's yardstick... but if you had to choose which one to do first... the bigger impact is with the MBB program. There is no room for debate in my mind. _
    So as AD, I fire both and put my boosters on the hook for more money. If they don't fork over, I hire whoever I can.

    They'll fork over.

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    _ So as AD, I fire both and put my boosters on the hook for more money. If they don't fork over, I hire whoever I can.

    They'll fork over. _
    Boosters will not just fork over for coaching "changes". They will fork over in view of a system that guarantees improvement in that process. The admin is on the hook for creating and revealing that process... first. You are right, however... the admin "maintains" a system where boosters will not fork over... so the admin "allows itself" to hire whoever the admin "can".

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    _ So as AD, I fire both and put my boosters on the hook for more money. If they don't fork over, I hire whoever I can.

    They'll fork over. _
    If you hire whoever you can, they won't fork over. They are not forking over right now on the larger scale. Hiring a bargain coach at this time simply fills the position for several years, until you have to make the change again. Ultimately, you have accomplished nothing but a few more wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    _ I just remember Wright Waters in a radio interview state he was going to pressure (or something similar) the Sun Belt athletic departments to quit relying so heavily on the JC route.

    It was soon after that interview that the big ONLY HS recruiting route for Ragin' CAjuns basketball was made public.

    Right or wrong I put the 2 together. _
    Either he did or he didn't. In this case, your conclusion is wrong.

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    Lee, you gotta fix men's bball first.


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    rhineaux's Avatar rhineaux is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Fan for Sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    _ If you hire whoever you can, they won't fork over. They are not forking over right now on the larger scale. Hiring a bargain coach at this time simply fills the position for several years, until you have to make the change again. Ultimately, you have accomplished nothing but a few more wins. _
    This is the epitome of the "got to spend money to make money" phrase.

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    Ragin' Cajuns Re: Rogers or Lee??

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    _ If you hire whoever you can, they won't fork over. They are not forking over right now on the larger scale. Hiring a bargain coach at this time simply fills the position for several years, until you have to make the change again. Ultimately, you have accomplished nothing but a few more wins. _
    Maybe I didn't make myself clear enough, my intent is fire both, hire quality replacements and put boosters on the hook.

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