Rogers or Lee??

[Just1More]

_ You fix your higher profile program first! It's about money and tradition. And we have a chance to recoupe the money used to buy out the contract with an increase in season ticket sales. We have no chance of doing that in women's basketball,taking a $180K loss in such economic times. _

Good logic.

[CajunT]

_ Good logic.

I just have a problem with rewarding the biggest loser.

Under the scenario of this thread I also would be more lenient on Lee because I feel the administration forced him into going the failed HS only route. This was basically starting the program over from scratch, a very immature move.

I think that is part of why they would give him a 2 year extension which was based in part on the failure of the rest of the Sun Belt West. _

No, that decision was Coach Lee's. The administration did not force him to go the high school route in recruiting. That decision came after the class with Turner and a few others. It was not a good recruiting class period.

Again, all this speculation may be mute if the administration decides to terminate both coaches. But if we cannot, then terminating Coach Lee has the most potential upside economically for this athletic program.

[HOUCajun]

_ Leelee Lee Lee Leee leleeleeleee.

We're talking f#%n Lee... _

lol!!! Any time you can work in a Tenacious D quote, you should get bonus points on this board!
But I agree. New MBB coach = increased revenue for the school. New WBB coach improves the program but has little or no economic impact. In these tough economic times I think that is the only way to look at it.

[Just1More]

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I just have a problem with rewarding the biggest loser.

All depends on your definition of the "biggest loser". I define the biggest loser as the one who had a much bigger program, rich with a history of success, with a load of fans, with many years in the system, with his own choice of players, and whose performance has a greater impact on the well-being of UL's athletic perception among its totality of followers... and has failed.

[Turbine]

_ No, that decision was Coach Lee's. The administration did not force him to go the high school route in recruiting.

I just remember Wright Waters in a radio interview state he was going to pressure (or something similar) the Sun Belt athletic departments to quit relying so heavily on the JC route.

It was soon after that interview that the big ONLY HS recruiting route for Ragin' CAjuns basketball was made public.

Right or wrong I put the 2 together.

[VObserver]

_ All depends on your definition of the "biggest loser". I define the biggest loser as the one who had a much bigger program, rich with a history of success, with a load of fans, with many years in the system, with his own choice of players, and whose performance has a greater impact on the well-being of UL's athletic perception among its totality of followers... and has failed. _

If that's the case, we should fire Tony Robichaux. [Note my tongue is firmly in cheek].

Seriously, Rogers has done to women's basketball what Baldwin did to football. Fortunately, one or two good classes well coached can fix basketball. I don't make a choice. I bite the bullet and fire both, even if I have to cut the football budget to do it. Improved attendance in MBB will pay for both firings; and improved perception of the program as a whole will help all sports.

[Just1More]

_ If that's the case, we should fire Tony Robichaux. [Note my tongue is firmly in cheek].

Seriously, Rogers has done to women's basketball what Baldwin did to football. Fortunately, one or two good classes well coached can fix basketball. I don't make a choice. I bite the bullet and fire both, even if I have to cut the football budget to do it. Improved attendance in MBB will pay for both firings; and improved perception of the program as a whole will help all sports. _

You are right... both Lee and Rogers have earned a pink slip by any other program in the country's yardstick... but if you had to choose which one to do first... the bigger impact is with the MBB program. There is no room for debate in my mind.

[VObserver]

_ You are right... both Lee and Rogers have earned a pink slip by any other program in the country's yardstick... but if you had to choose which one to do first... the bigger impact is with the MBB program. There is no room for debate in my mind. _

So as AD, I fire both and put my boosters on the hook for more money. If they don't fork over, I hire whoever I can.

They'll fork over.

[Just1More]

_ So as AD, I fire both and put my boosters on the hook for more money. If they don't fork over, I hire whoever I can.

They'll fork over. _

Boosters will not just fork over for coaching "changes". They will fork over in view of a system that guarantees improvement in that process. The admin is on the hook for creating and revealing that process... first. You are right, however... the admin "maintains" a system where boosters will not fork over... so the admin "allows itself" to hire whoever the admin "can".

[CajunT]

_ So as AD, I fire both and put my boosters on the hook for more money. If they don't fork over, I hire whoever I can.

They'll fork over. _

If you hire whoever you can, they won't fork over. They are not forking over right now on the larger scale. Hiring a bargain coach at this time simply fills the position for several years, until you have to make the change again. Ultimately, you have accomplished nothing but a few more wins.