UL vs USM Game 1

[rhineaux]

_ From 2001-present, a period of 8 years, we've been to three regionals. For a school in our position, that's excellent. I wonder how many schools in the 'Belt have done so well.

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If you think we should go to the Regionals 4 out of 5 years, please back it up. Please give evidence-- any evidence at all-- that supports your opinion. _

First, I’ll say again that I don’t think anyone has suggested that Robe be fired, although there are a lot of posts insinuating that someone said that. I think that all anyone suggested, including cajun4life, is that folks are afraid to judge Robe equally because of past successes. I think he’s right because as soon as anyone says anything close to questioning Robe, everyone has a fit about it and insinuates that someone said he should be fired.

Secondly, I would agree with your first point, except that the team participated in more regionals in the 4 seasons preceding 2001. I think that if, instead of looking at the team over the past 8-10 seasons, you look at two groups of seasons...the first from 1997 (first Postseason trip under Robe) through 2002 and the second being from 2003 to 2008, you'll see C4L's point. Both groups consist of 6 seasons. You'll see that in overall record, conference performance, etc, there isn't much difference between the two era's. But, if you look at Postseason Appearances, and success in the Postseason, you'll see that the team went to the postseason 5 times in that first 6 year span, for a postseason record of 11-9, whereas in the second 6-year span, they have only made 2 Postseason appearances with a 3-4 record.

I don't think the argument has anything to do with whether or not he is a good coach. I think the argument is that this baseball program had a GREAT stretch of years, and made it to a CWS, and had something to build off of. And, since then, instead of building, the program has taken a step back, or not continued to progress, or however one may choose to put it.

As I said last week, there was a big change in the program following that 2002 season. I'm not saying that did or didn't have anything to do with the team's performances, but I think that argument could be made. It was also at that time, I think, that they quit playing LSU and Tulane annually, so maybe the lack of those 3-5 RPI games per year hurt them, although I think 2006 is the only year it might have come into play. I'm sure there are some other things that someone could come up with as to why the program's progression has stalled. But, I think that for anyone to state that the progression HAS NOT stalled means that they're choosing to ignore some important points. The thing to remember is that Robe doesn't make excuses for himself or his team, and is always very candid when speaking about his team. So, I think that if Robe has questions about his team and program, it is perfectly OK for fans to ask the same questions.

[cajun4life]

_ First, I’ll say again that I don’t think anyone has suggested that Robe be fired, although there are a lot of posts insinuating that someone said that. I think that all anyone suggested, including cajun4life, is that folks are afraid to judge Robe equally because of past successes. I think he’s right because as soon as anyone says anything close to questioning Robe, everyone has a fit about it and insinuates that someone said he should be fired.

Secondly, I would agree with your first point, except that the team participated in more regionals in the 4 seasons preceding 2001. I think that if, instead of looking at the team over the past 8-10 seasons, you look at two groups of seasons...the first from 1997 (first Postseason trip under Robe) through 2002 and the second being from 2003 to 2008, you'll see C4L's point. Both groups consist of 6 seasons. You'll see that in overall record, conference performance, etc, there isn't much difference between the two era's. But, if you look at Postseason Appearances, and success in the Postseason, you'll see that the team went to the postseason 5 times in that first 6 year span, for a postseason record of 11-9, whereas in the second 6-year span, they have only made 2 Postseason appearances with a 3-4 record.

I don't think the argument has anything to do with whether or not he is a good coach. I think the argument is that this baseball program had a GREAT stretch of years, and made it to a CWS, and had something to build off of. And, since then, instead of building, the program has taken a step back, or not continued to progress, or however one may choose to put it.

As I said last week, there was a big change in the program following that 2002 season. I'm not saying that did or didn't have anything to do with the team's performances, but I think that argument could be made. It was also at that time, I think, that they quit playing LSU and Tulane annually, so maybe the lack of those 3-5 RPI games per year hurt them, although I think 2006 is the only year it might have come into play. I'm sure there are some other things that someone could come up with as to why the program's progression has stalled. But, I think that for anyone to state that the progression HAS NOT stalled means that they're choosing to ignore some important points. The thing to remember is that Robe doesn't make excuses for himself or his team, and is always very candid when speaking about his team. So, I think that if Robe has questions about his team and program, it is perfectly OK for fans to ask the same questions. _

That is exactly what I was trying to say. Thank you.

[Just1More]

_ First, I’ll say again that I don’t think anyone has suggested that Robe be fired, although there are a lot of posts insinuating that someone said that. I think that all anyone suggested, including cajun4life, is that folks are afraid to judge Robe equally because of past successes. I think he’s right because as soon as anyone says anything close to questioning Robe, everyone has a fit about it and insinuates that someone said he should be fired.

Rhineaux, the initial discussion was raised on the backside of the two basketball coaches being "questioned". "Why aren't we questioning Robe?" was the big entry point. Most simply came to the defense of a defensable Robe. I find that they who support Robe get attacked as well on here for what they say. The question was asked "what do you do with Robe... fire him?". Answer: "No. But he needs to be held accountable." How so? Saying things like "I want to see sustained success...". How do you hold a coach "accountable" for "sustained success"? Contract terms! Front office business. I do not mind talking about trends and whatever in our programs, but to suggest that UL can go find and grab a better baseball coach than Robe right now is ludicrous.

We have enough coaching questions that warrant decisions... right now or in the very near future. Some people just seem to love to jump on the belly-aching bandwagon. It ruins addressing the acute problems we have to deal with... right now.

When our admin thinks we are simply a bunch of chronic complainers about every single thing we can think of... you know what they do... they don't listen to anything. The key to selling management on their requirement for action is to keep the list to a focused discussion of undeniable problems with undeniably attainable solutions.

Tony Robicheaux is NOT on that list.