UL vs USM Game 1

[cajun4life]

_ Robe says that when he started, the big boys weren't pumping the money into baseball that they are now. But let's forget about all that. Let's just look at Robe on his own merits.

Consider a 10 year span:

1999, 42-24, sweep the Houston Regional with a win against Texas and two against UH, advance to Rice Super Regional, win one, lose two.

2000, 49-20, sweep your own Regional, go to #1 South Carolina (56-8), which had only lost TWO home games all season, but you hand the Gamecocks the only back-to-back losses they had all year to advance to the CWS.

Go to the College World Series, win two games, more than any debut team in the modern era, eliminate Clemson and San Jose State. (Remember, LSU didn't win a game in their first two or three trips.)

2002, 39-23, LSU Regionals, you defeat Tulane, give LSU its first Regional loss against a Louisiana public university, make it to the finals.

2005, Despite a 48-19 record and a Top-25 Ranking, the Cajuns are a #3 seed in the VERY top-heavy New Orleans Regional, where the #2 is 16th ranked Alabama (38-21) and the host is 50-9 National #1 Ranked Tulane. You win one, lose twice to 'Bama.

2007 End of season NCAA power ranking of #14, but NCAA screws you out of a Regional, you go to A&M and make the finals, defeating A&M before losing to them.

Now remember, we're in one of the better baseball conferences, stronger than some BCS conferences.

Forget about baseball. If you have a basketball coach who, in 10 years, takes you to the national tournament FIVE times, wins at least one game each time, makes it to the Regional finals (equivalent to a second round appearance in the basketball tournament) 4 times, to the Sweet 16 twice, and to the top 8 once with a top 4 finish...

... YOU gonna fire him, hoss??

_

Fun do you consider, USM, Houston, Troy, South Al, TCU the big boys? The reason I ask is because these are the programs that have surpassed us in baseball. We may have never been truly ahead of them, but we are surely behind them now. I won't even throw Rice or Tulane in there even though they are mid majors.

I am not comparing Robe and UL to the Big 12 or SEC, but Sunbelt and CUSA schools. If you think a judgment based on those comparisons are unfair then I guess I have a stimulus plan that will work for you too. lol.

[BigGoldNation]

Guys

I don't have much of a dog in this fight, but I think UL is a lot better team that they are playing right now.

But, in regards to C-USA, in baseball they are one of the big boys, C-USA regularly gets 5-6 Regional Bids, that's more than the Big 12 and Pac 10 some years. C-USA has several teams that have past Tulane in baseball. Right now the top "programs" in C-USA are Rice, East Carolina, Southern Miss, Tulane, Houston, and UCF. Memphis, UAB and Marshall have all made some pretty big commitments to baseball in the last few years.

C-USA is one of the top baseball leagues each year, now in basketball, we're pretty much garbage.

[Just1More]

_ Guys

I don't have much of a dog in this fight, but I think UL is a lot better team that they are playing right now.

But, in regards to C-USA, in baseball they are one of the big boys, C-USA regularly gets 5-6 Regional Bids, that's more than the Big 12 and Pac 10 some years. C-USA has several teams that have past Tulane in baseball. Right now the top "programs" in C-USA are Rice, East Carolina, Southern Miss, Tulane, Houston, and UCF. Memphis, UAB and Marshall have all made some pretty big commitments to baseball in the last few years.

C-USA is one of the top baseball leagues each year, now in basketball, we're pretty much garbage. _

You're speaking rationally... many on here won't hear of it. We like to beeyotch. Can you come up with something to pick a fight over... that might get something going.

[CajunFun]

_ Fun do you consider, USM, Houston, Troy, South Al, TCU the big boys? The reason I ask is because these are the programs that have surpassed us in baseball. We may have never been truly ahead of them, but we are surely behind them now. I won't even throw Rice or Tulane in there even though they are mid majors.

I am not comparing Robe and UL to the Big 12 or SEC, but Sunbelt and CUSA schools. If you think a judgment based on those comparisons are unfair then I guess I have a stimulus plan that will work for you too. lol. _

Why is it we always look at the handful of schools ahead of us, and never look at the huge pack behind us?

Stop and think: how many mid-majors-- no, how many BCS schools-- sit around this time of year, looking at our baseball team and how much we've accomplished on a fraction of what they spend, and beyotch about THEIR programs?

This year, at this point, we're struggling. I would remind you, the CWS team went into a terrible skid at the end of their season. So remember to look at what we've accomplished over the years. Remember to look at the big picture.

Griping here doesn't make UL better. It hurts us. It hurts team morale, game attendance, supporter donations, student and athlete recruitment.

When you whine on the boards, stop and think about what you're doing, and whether or not you're really supporting UL.

[CajunFun]

_ Why is it we always look at the handful of schools ahead of us, and never look at the huge pack behind us?

Stop and think: how many mid-majors-- no, how many BCS schools-- sit around this time of year, looking at our baseball team and how much we've accomplished on a fraction of what they spend, and beyotch about THEIR programs?

This year, at this point, we're struggling. I would remind you, the CWS team went into a terrible skid at the end of their season. So remember to look at what we've accomplished over the years. Remember to look at the big picture.

Griping here doesn't make UL better. It hurts us. It hurts team morale, game attendance, supporter donations, student and athlete recruitment.

When you whine on the boards, stop and think about what you're doing, and whether or not you're really supporting UL.

_

PS At the 2007 A&M Regional, I was sitting behind some Ohio State fans. Their baseball budget has to be 4 to 5 times ours.

Man, were they pizzed when we thumped 'em.

And you know what? They were the only ones who were surprised. Our fans weren't, and the A&M fans weren't.

In fact, the A&M fans were pretty shocked that they beat us not once, but twice back-to-back. They were pitching fresmen against us, fuzz-lipped newbies who were shaking in their boots. And they knew the Cajuns were loaded.

I'm still puzzled what happened to us that year, why we didn't move to the Super Regional. Personally I suspect the team got stage fright.

You'll say it was Robe's job to get them past that.

I would argue he had done a superlative job getting us to that point, into the finals without a loss.

Is the glass 1/4 empty, or 3/4 full?

[BrudaCajun]

_ Fun do you consider, USM, Houston, Troy, South Al, TCU the big boys? The reason I ask is because these are the programs that have surpassed us in baseball. We may have never been truly ahead of them, but we are surely behind them now. I won't even throw Rice or Tulane in there even though they are mid majors.

I am not comparing Robe and UL to the Big 12 or SEC, but Sunbelt and CUSA schools. If you think a judgment based on those comparisons are unfair then I guess I have a stimulus plan that will work for you too. lol. _

How closely do you follow SBC baseball. South Al and Troy are ahead of us, that is not true.

Troy
2008 31-26 w/ 2 losses to USM, 1 win against Bama, 1 win against Auburn

2007 34-27 with a regional apperance where they got bounced in 2

2006 1st yr in SBC play 47-16
South Al
2008 32-26 15-15 in sbc

2007 31-26 13-16 in sbc


2006 39-21 16-7 in sbc w/ a regional apperance beating Tulane, and losing the next 2



So how much have they surpassed us? Please riddle me this

[RCAJUN90]

_ If Robichaux were a coach in a major conference:

1) He would make a lot more money,


2) He would have a lot more money to offer assistants,

3) He would have a lot more travel money for recruiting,

4) He would have had a better stadium when he came here, and wouldn't be spending his precious time fixing it up,

5) He would have a much larger fund-raising staff, who would get him more resources,

6) He would have a grounds and facility staff to do a lot of the work he and his kids have to do now.

Robe has turned down many offers from bigger schools.

It's a shame that he is so loyal to us, when so many of the "fans" here are so disloyal to him.

_

1-3) True but more would be expected from him. If he didn't produce he would get the boot.
4)Someone posted a web site that said how the Tigue was one of the big must see baseball fields in the South.
5-6) Blame the RCAF not being done sooner and not the fans.

"It's a shame that he is so loyal to us, when so many of the "fans" here are so disloyal to him."

Robe got us into the CWS in 2000. I believe he got us into a regional or two since then. I'm sure he has won a Belt Championship. By our standards he should get a lifetime contract offer from UL. The fans are upset by the slow start and they have the right to voice their displeasure and even call for the coaches head. I'm not a big baseball person and will only watch the Cajuns and only when we have good team. I guess I will not make it to the Pontiff Classic unless we turn it around. You have no right to point your finger of shame on the fans. Robe knows it is part of the job. You win and everyone loves you. You lose and it is your rear. Accept of course at UL.

"Robe has turned down many offers from bigger schools."

Who, when and where? I could imagine many schools came a calling after the CWS 2000. I can't imagine any big time schools would be interested in him now. Where's your proof?

[RCAJUN90]

_ I never said he interviewed. I know for a fact that he was called by many programs, and he turned most, if not all of them, down without further discussion.

But you want to curse me, to call me a liar? You want to insult me on the Boards?

It was implied when you said he turned down offers from larger schools. Where's your proof? If the shoe fits. It was kind of like when you denied your were making money off of ULtoday (Not that there is anything wrong with making money). Anyone can see the local ads on there. You do this out of the goodness of your heart so those business can get some free advertising?

[cajun4life]

_ How closely do you follow SBC baseball. South Al and Troy are ahead of us, that is not true.

Troy
2008 31-26 w/ 2 losses to USM, 1 win against Bama, 1 win against Auburn

2007 34-27 with a regional apperance where they got bounced in 2

2006 1st yr in SBC play 47-16
South Al
2008 32-26 15-15 in sbc

2007 31-26 13-16 in sbc


2006 39-21 16-7 in sbc w/ a regional apperance beating Tulane, and losing the next 2



So how much have they surpassed us? Please riddle me this _

Re-read my post, I named schools that we were clearly ahead of or on par with. Now those schools have either past us up, USM, Houston and the other schools have caught up Troy, South Al, UNO.

[BrudaCajun]

Robe got us into the CWS in 2000. I believe he got us into a regional or two since then. I'm sure he has won a Belt Championship. _

Nah, just three of them. Hey, did you not say you were a football guy. Let us wait for asinine comments until THEN!!!

[BrudaCajun]

_ Re-read my post, I named schools that we were clearly ahead of or on par with. Now those schools have either past us up, USM, Houston and the other schools have caught up Troy, South Al, UNO. _

"Fun do you consider, USM, Houston, Troy, South Al, TCU the big boys? The reason I ask is because these are the programs that have surpassed us in baseball. We may have never been truly ahead of them, but we are surely behind them now"

Yea what am I misunderstanding?

[cajun4life]

_ PS At the 2007 A&M Regional, I was sitting behind some Ohio State fans. Their baseball budget has to be 4 to 5 times ours.

Man, were they pizzed when we thumped 'em.

And you know what? They were the only ones who were surprised. Our fans weren't, and the A&M fans weren't.

In fact, the A&M fans were pretty shocked that they beat us not once, but twice back-to-back. They were pitching fresmen against us, fuzz-lipped newbies who were shaking in their boots. And they knew the Cajuns were loaded.

I'm still puzzled what happened to us that year, why we didn't move to the Super Regional. Personally I suspect the team got stage fright.

You'll say it was Robe's job to get them past that.

I would argue he had done a superlative job getting us to that point, into the finals without a loss.

Is the glass 1/4 empty, or 3/4 full?

_

Just like we couldn't seal the deal at the LSU regional, the A&M regional was the same thing. We got tight and played not to lose instead of to win.

Fun if that were to happen often this decade I would not be complaining or questioning what has happened. But the facts state that we are on a decline since the CWS team.