N.C.A.A. Must Allow Colleges to Pay Athletes, Judge Rules

[douglas]

a few times it came up that the whole cost of attendance stuff would have eliminated about 80% of the infractions in the 73 case. I cant really focus on the ncaa as a whole though which kinda irks me, its just too much information to fit into a reasonable time line. You can do three hours alone on the ncaa itself. from the creation of the term "student athletes" to deflect death benefits in the 30's, to personal loans for ncaa employees at 0% interest totaling millions of dollars, to systematically destroying all other competing amateur leagues through broadcasting shakedowns then claiming membership is voluntary...the list of hypocrisy is endless really. but i digress back to work

[MelRock]

a few times it came up that the whole cost of attendance stuff would have eliminated about 80% of the infractions in the 73 case. I cant really focus on the ncaa as a whole though which kinda irks me, its just too much information to fit into a reasonable time line. You can do three hours alone on the ncaa itself. from the creation of the term "student athletes" to deflect death benefits in the 30's, to personal loans for ncaa employees at 0% interest totaling millions of dollars, to systematically destroying all other competing amateur leagues through broadcasting shakedowns then claiming membership is voluntary...the list of hypocrisy is endless really. but i digress back to work

Sounds like part deux

[SlappyCajun]

The NCAA has promulgated too many regulations. It became farcical. By attempting to maintain the guise of amateurism, they created an organization that was a enforcement/management nightmare.

They are now reaping what they sow.

A fair compromise a long time ago would have been that schools do not pay any money, but if Players were able to generate money off their image and likeness, so be it. For example, if a car dealership in Lafayette wanted to pay Terrence Broadway $1000 to come to the store on a Saturday and sign autographs, give me one reason why Terrence should not get that money.

[Hammer58]

The NCAA has promulgated too many regulations. It became farcical. By attempting to maintain the guise of amateurism, they created an organization that was a enforcement/management nightmare.

They are now reaping what they sow.

A fair compromise a long time ago would have been that schools do not pay any money, but if Players were able to generate money off their image and likeness, so be it. For example, if a car dealership in Lafayette wanted to pay Terrence Broadway $1000 to come to the store on a Saturday and sign autographs, give me one reason why Terrence should not get that money.

It became a farce due to the ncaa's selective enforcement of those rules. Their myopia and selective memory when it comes to blatant infractions by the "power conference" members rivals any Blake Edwards comedy.

[Cajunjeb]

The NCAA has promulgated too many regulations. It became farcical. By attempting to maintain the guise of amateurism, they created an organization that was a enforcement/management nightmare.

They are now reaping what they sow.

A fair compromise a long time ago would have been that schools do not pay any money, but if Players were able to generate money off their image and likeness, so be it. For example, if a car dealership in Lafayette wanted to pay Terrence Broadway $1000 to come to the store on a Saturday and sign autographs, give me one reason why Terrence should not get that money.

These kids get:
Full ride scholarship
All meals
Clothes
Housing

I wasn't rich, so I had to:
Pay my way/get loan.
Get a job to cover my meals, clothes and housing. Now, what little money that was left was mine to spend on junk, going out, etc.

These players are getting an education (if they chose to accept it) and others things you and I have to pay for (or owe back). They are made whole.

If their face/name is used by the university for marketing, like season ticket commercials, pictures in media guides, hype videos, I don't have a problem with it. As long as it's the university only.

When other entities get involved is when problems happen, like sports games, or other non-university entities use players images, etc. Then, players become independent contractors and they deserved to be compensated for their image/likeness. How do you control it? Don't let it happen. Why don't you want players to become IC? There are tax ramifications for players. This also could draw attention away from school, or football. Could you imagine if they allowed Johnny Football to be an IC while in school?

I would be OK with players getting "some" spending money but the amount has to be the same for all scholarship athletes at the university, that includes all softball, track, baseball, basketball, etc. This would be mandated by the NCAA and the amount would be set based on the cost of living where the university was located.

[SlappyCajun]

These kids get:
Full ride scholarship
All meals
Clothes
Housing

I wasn't rich, so I had to:
Pay my way/get loan.
Get a job to cover my meals, clothes and housing. Now, what little money that was left was mine to spend on junk, going out, etc.

These players are getting an education (if they chose to accept it) and others things you and I have to pay for (or owe back). They are made whole.

If their face/name is used by the university for marketing, like season ticket commercials, pictures in media guides, hype videos, I don't have a problem with it. As long as it's the university only.

When other entities get involved is when problems happen, like sports games, or other non-university entities use players images, etc. Then, players become independent contractors and they deserved to be compensated for their image/likeness. How do you control it? Don't let it happen. Why don't you want players to become IC? There are tax ramifications for players. This also could draw attention away from school, or football. Could you imagine if they allowed Johnny Football to be an IC while in school?

I would be OK with players getting "some" spending money but the amount has to be the same for all scholarship athletes at the university, that includes all softball, track, baseball, basketball, etc. This would be mandated by the NCAA and the amount would be set based on the cost of living where the university was located.

The difference between you and I is that we don't make millions of dollars for the University. Athletes do.

Another thing the NCAA could do to make themselves look legit is take a strong stance against age limits for professional sports. Talented kids are forced to go to college and risk injury instead of attempting to go pro right away.

[Turbine]

... For example, if a car dealership in Lafayette wanted to pay Terrence Broadway $1000 to come to the store on a Saturday and sign autographs, give me one reason why Terrence should not get that money.

It has been said "The difference between you and I is that we don't make millions of dollars for the University. Athletes do."

By the same token based on lifetime return on time investment, the University already over pays full scholarship athletes.

So your suggestion rocks, even though Broadway Jeaux types would rake it in hand over fist.

[Cajunjeb]

The difference between you and I is that we don't make millions of dollars for the University. Athletes do.

Another thing the NCAA could do to make themselves look legit is take a strong stance against age limits for professional sports. Talented kids are forced to go to college and risk injury instead of attempting to go pro right away.

Well, I guess all of those millions will go to all of the athletes and their "cost of attendance". Those universities that can't afford to cover the "cost of attendance" will increase ticket prices, etc.

An obvious solution that a university would obviously not go for is a cap for all universities. Let's say at the end of the year, universities are allowed to keep up to 10% of their annual profit from athletics. Anything over 10% goes to a "national pot". Then, every university that took a loss gets to take a scoop out of the pot, up to 10% of break even. Then, the schools that broke even then get to take their scoop up to 10%. Whatever is left is available for next year.

Of the 10%, 5% could be kept in the athletics as profit and the other 5% would be given to the university for academics.

[SlappyCajun]

Well, I guess all of those millions will go to all of the athletes and their "cost of attendance". Those universities that can't afford to cover the "cost of attendance" will increase ticket prices, etc.

An obvious solution that a university would obviously not go for is a cap for all universities. Let's say at the end of the year, universities are allowed to keep up to 10% of their annual profit from athletics. Anything over 10% goes to a "national pot". Then, every university that took a loss gets to take a scoop out of the pot, up to 10% of break even. Then, the schools that broke even then get to take their scoop up to 10%. Whatever is left is available for next year.

Of the 10%, 5% could be kept in the athletics as profit and the other 5% would be given to the university for academics.

Or, don't force the universities to pay anything, but let other parties with an interest in the athlete's image/brand to pay.

i.e. let Terrence Broadway advertise Olde Tyme. Let Leonard Fournette advertise for LSU. The NCAA and thus the schools fought so hard to keep athletes from getting paid via amateurism that now they are going to have to come out of pocket.

[Fais do-do]

Can't wait until that first lockout by the "players" and the scrubs will come out and play the games.
"We the playas" want 50% of all revenue from the NCAA or else.....beeotches!!!!
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
They just tipped the Boulder down the hill, I'll watch the carnage from the top and laugh at them.