Savoie on the Budget Cuts

[BeauCajun]

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Personally I think each system in the State should have a flagship and the States top school should use another phrase. _

Anchor perhaps???

[Turbine]

_ Anchor perhaps??? _

Now that is good.

A simultaneous compliment and excoriation depending on your vantage point.

[Just1More]

_ North Carolina also has double the population of Louisiana and I'm going to assume significantly more funding for education. Louisiana has far too many four year universities for a state with under 4.5 million people. _

You need to be careful what you hope for. The reason Louisiana maintains so many "other institutions" 4 year university status is to ration what is left over just enough so that no one emerges beyond "the acceptable" second place.

I could care less about "flagship" status. They need to grant UL #1 aircraft carrier status and start redistributing to reasonable assignement to the rest of "our fleet". When you manage to operate, academically, far beyond your parental hand-out, it becomes all too obvious what is happening. There is an incestuous relationship with the parents and the flagship daughter.

Do you want to tell me what else that group of parents focuses their operations on in this state that is so nationally spectacular? Do you want to know why? Oh yes... it is because we are only 4.5 million people... right?... wrong. You really need to see how lacking our legislative group is... but when they rally around the flagship... the natives tend to dismiss the rest of their ineptness.

When you complain about what this state has and does not have... you need to go back to exactly what runs this state. The government constantly changes out people. There exists only one institution that remains in charge. And therefore... the state ranks where we rank.

[cajunfan96]

_ Dr. Savoie has issued a letter on the budget cuts, text available at...

PS... click the link to the Lombardi video under UL District News, where he notes that Louisiana "should have two or three flagship universities."

Bet the LSU partisans yank him up short on that one.

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Folks, the bottom line is we need to start contacting legislators before they institute cuts that will set us back decades! The current system of cutting budgets needs to be changed! We must act now!!!!!1111

[RiverRanchMan]

_ I still think you're an LSU guy trying to flame this forum....... _

For Louisiana to have more than one flagship university, we would have to eliminate all the regional schools (NLU, NSU, SLU,McNeese,Nichols, ULM) and possibly Southern & Grambling. They should be junior colleges. Either Tech or UL-Lafayette would be candidates for the other flagship school. This will never happen. Louisiana cannot financially support all these universities which means only one will be considered the flagship (LSU).

[ULBaby!]

_ All I can say is wow! That's quite possibly the stupidest statement I have ever heard from someone that holds a phD? If there was supposed to be 2 or 3 flagship institutions, the concept would be called "Flagships Agenda." The entire concept that Emmert took from UConn and pursued at LSU was founded on the concept that stratification of public institutions is necessary, if a state wants a nationally recognized institution. As opposed to just a bunch of random and unselective institutions that teach kids. This is also a concept that is readily accepted everywhere, and supported by the reality that every state has 1 flagship.

The fact this state happily funds so many additional schools that can't possibly be justified, almost makes it poetic that a mindset exists that stratification of institutions is somehow un-Louisianan. _

The flagship concept is readily accepted everywhere? Every state has one flagship? I wonder how that statement would go over at Ole Miss and Mississippi State, Florida and Florida State, Texas and Texas A & M? Maybe in Arkansas. How about in Alabama? Think Auburn would have a problem with that? Nah...its a concept that works everywhere, right? All I can say is wow!

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[zephyr]

_ maybe we can cut that pop up that always asks me on that ultoday site that don't work... "don't ask again" .. how much a savings there (ha-ha-ing) though, i'd suggest. fix it.. it's bothersome big time.. as i politically now type (imho)

please i think all reading this may have the clue.. i have no clue

although, with that being said.. i certainly saw some 3 state reps giving their o-pines about the indy bowl game when the cajuns did not make it..

i must admit, i skipped the first 3 pages of this thread..... though will click on the bottom for replies and rebukes and "putting me in my place" type replies

my question.. have we heard such "vigorous condemnations " on this budget cut stuff.. as we did on that, oh huh? no cajuns playing in shreveport?

ps. please correct me if somewhere in the earlier 3 pages of posts that someone has posted a quote from any of those 3 that had verbalized such indignation..

i'll then and will crawl back into my hole (yea.. i know.. smiling smartly) _

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mais huh? (smiles wide that show the copenhagen between my teeth)

couldn't have said it better myself even if i tried.. ( i am ) bil

ps. are we seeing the same fervor.. thru emails and calls to those 3 guys, the newspapers, talk shows, etc etc etc... that were vocalizing their displeasure of the indy bowl decision.. to say "don't cut money" from "the school they represent" - - - ????

naahh i don't think so..

[Hammer58]

_ Anchor perhaps??? _

Might I offer... Albatross?

[Hammer58]

_ mais huh? (smiles wide that show the copenhagen between my teeth)

couldn't have said it better myself even if i tried.. ( i am ) bil

ps. are we seeing the same fervor.. thru emails and calls to those 3 guys, the newspapers, talk shows, etc etc etc... that were vocalizing their displeasure of the indy bowl decision.. to say "don't cut money" from "the school they represent" - - - ????

naahh i don't think so.. _

Due to constitutional mandates in our ass-backwards banana republic, almost everthing but higher ed and hospitals are constitutionally protected from cuts. So, unfortunately, the legislature couldn't do anything about it even if they had the desire which I don't think many of them do.

[VObserver]

_ All I can say is wow! That's quite possibly the stupidest statement I have ever heard from someone that holds a phD? If there was supposed to be 2 or 3 flagship institutions, the concept would be called "Flagships Agenda." The entire concept that Emmert took from UConn and pursued at LSU was founded on the concept that stratification of public institutions is necessary, if a state wants a nationally recognized institution. As opposed to just a bunch of random and unselective institutions that teach kids. This is also a concept that is readily accepted everywhere, and supported by the reality that every state has 1 flagship.

The fact this state happily funds so many additional schools that can't possibly be justified, almost makes it poetic that a mindset exists that stratification of institutions is somehow un-Louisianan. _

There are, in fact, only two states that have adopted the 'Flagship' model; Louisiana and Arkansas. Two states that rank last and next to last in darn near every educational measurement you can think of. It's not a coincidence.

Alabama, almost as small in population as Louisiana, and MUCH poorer in resources, has as many 4 year public schools as Louisiana [give or take a couple, I counted 12 and stopped] and MORE than Arkansas, but NO flagship; yet Auburn, Alabama and UAB are all above LSU and Arkansas academically.

That's not an accident, either.