The future of Robert Lee

[zephyr]

_ Come on, was it really a two point game? LSU had a double digit lead until Randle went nuts down the stretch. What has he done since then? Now, I know the SEC isn't strong this year, but LSU is coming off two easy victories over South Carolina and Ole Miss. Hell, LSU still has two starters from its Final Four team. Delwan Graham isn't seeing the court because he's playing behind junior and seniors. LSU isn't trying to spread the wealth to 12 players, as they are really set on a solid 8-9 player rotation with a few minutes coming after that. Centenary did the same thing against LSU than the Cajuns did, are they just as talented as LSU? Nicholls State gave LSU all they wanted in the Pmac, as did Jackson State earlier this season. Hell, McNeese only lost to LSU by 3. I think you are putting a little too much stock into the fact that LSU only beat the Cajuns by 2 points. Is LSU a great team? Not even close, but they might have a shot at making the NCAA tournament due to the SEC being down. _

The final score says it was a 2 point game. I'm not putting too much stock into the score. Some people are just black and white and don't see between the lines. I'm not saying we are a better team. I just wish some people would try to actually comprehend what is being said. However, I'm saying that talent wise, I believe we are as talented or more than LSU. We do not play as well as a team as they do, we are not as well coached and I understand that. However, we shoot better and if our shooters had more open shots that a well run offense would allow, I think this would be easy to see. We are every bit as athletic as the tigers, we block a ton of shots, we outrebounded them by double figures and we every bit as good of a Defensive team as they are. Why is it so hard for some here to see the argument at the very least?

[CajunZ1]

_ The final score says it was a 2 point game. I'm not putting too much stock into the score. Some people are just black and white and don't see between the lines. I'm not saying we are a better team. I just wish some people would try to actually comprehend what is being said. However, I'm saying that talent wise, I believe we are as talented or more than LSU. We do not play as well as a team as they do, we are not as well coached and I understand that. However, we shoot better and if our shooters had more open shots that a well run offense would allow, I think this would be easy to see. We are every bit as athletic as the tigers, we block a ton of shots, we outrebounded them by double figures and we every bit as good of a Defensive team as they are. Why is it so hard for some here to see the argument at the very least? _

I see the argument, I just respectfully disagree with you. Most of our team has "the look" of a good basketball player, but they are not. And lately we haven't made a shot of any sort (even the wide-open kind). I find talent hard to measure unless it's by performance. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it's a tough argument.

I'm not saying LSU is out of our league either. If anything that's a testament to how bad basketball as a whole has fallen off in this state in the past few years.

[zephyr]

_ I totally disagree. The proof will be in a few years when a couple of LSU guys will be in the NBA and our guys will be overseas.
Also, who on this team can shoot from the inside? I bet Bureau and Daigle shoot better on 3's than 2's. We have multiple problems. The most obvious is the coach, but our players talent level is also an issue. To me talent includes shooting and rebounding. Things our players are not good at. _

Talent includes a lot of things. It also includes the capacity to improve which I think this team has. We have several guys who can play multiple positions on the court such as Gradnigo, Roberson, Tyren Johnson just to name a few. We have great outside shooting, a lot of athleticism which allows us to block a ton of shots and get lots of steals (We outrebounded LSU by double figures) which included outrebounding some of these "Pro" players and if you can't say that we aren't as athletic or more than LSU, then the point is useless. I am simply saying that we have "talent". This doesn't mean that we are realizing this talent by any means or playing well, it just means it is there. If this team had chemistry which is also very important to make a good team, you'd see some of this talent realized even without an organized offense.

[Corndog308]

SO now the question is......whose head would you rather see roll? Choose your ball wisely. Bustle or Lee? I'd have to say Lee cuz he sure Baldwin'd this program.

[UL_Cajuns]

I am so sick of hearing the quote "We have Talent". In my book, if we don't win, there is no talent on this team. Period. Lets talk about trying to win, instead who has more talent.

[Corndog308]

_ I am so sick of hearing the quote "We have Talent".

I know!! It's almost as bas as hearing " It is what it is"

[zephyr]

_ SO now the question is......whose head would you rather see roll? Choose your ball wisely. Bustle or Lee? I'd have to say Lee cuz he sure Baldwin'd this program. _

I don't think there is much of an argument that Lee should go ahead of Bustle. While coach Bustle hasn't taken the next step like everyone was hoping for in his 7 years, he has built a nice base of talent here and they seem like they're continuing to improve ever so slowly. Coach Lee has "talent" which some of you hate to hear but it is a fact so I don't know what to tell you. He has underachieved miserably and even when Bustle lost games to the likes of KSU and Illinois, that team played really well and at a high level. This basketball team has not played like a team except for the ULM win and that is it.They obviously have issues within the team and coach Lee doesn't seem to handle the players real well.

[Cajunsmike]

_ Good question. I didn't think every team made it, but could stand corrected. Will someone post who knows? And, if not everyone makes it, where does UL currently stand in regards to the post season tourney? _

I answered this question yesterday in another thread. I have pasted the answer below. We are 3 and 3 now. I don't know what seed we would be if the season ended today. We do have 5 home games and 7 on the road of the remaining 12.
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Everyone makes the conference tournament. Top three seeds get a bye into the quarterfinals in Little Rock. Other ten teams play five games to determine the other five participants in Little Rock. Those five games are played on campus sites with the higher seeds hosting. Seeds are determined by your regular season conference records. Top three seeds are the two division winners and the second place team with the best record.

[DestinCajun]

I know!! It's almost as bas as hearing " It is what it is" _

"It is what it is" is the most "real" statement you'll find on these forums. At the end of the day, it's all we really have - like it or not.

I am quite fond of the statement.

[CajunZ1]

_ "It is what it is" is the most "real" statement you'll find on these forums. At the end of the day, it's all we really have - like it or not.

I am quite fond of the statement. _

I think you just "want it more" than us Destin...

Oh, and defense wins championships!!

[KACajun]

_ I don't think there is much of an argument that Lee should go ahead of Bustle. While coach Bustle hasn't taken the next step like everyone was hoping for in his 7 years, he has built a nice base of talent here and they seem like they're continuing to improve ever so slowly. Coach Lee has "talent" which some of you hate to hear but it is a fact so I don't know what to tell you. He has underachieved miserably and even when Bustle lost games to the likes of KSU and Illinois, that team played really well and at a high level. This basketball team has not played like a team except for the ULM win and that is it.They obviously have issues within the team and coach Lee doesn't seem to handle the players real well. _

I think they both should geaux!!!! The only reason people perceive that Lee should go first is because he brought a program down, and Bustle brought the program up ever so slightly. If the proverbial "talent" doesn't translate into W's is the talent really present? If the talent is there and we're still losing regularly than Bustle should be head of recruiting not the whole team!!!

[Clutch0364]

_ I don't think there is much of an argument that Lee should go ahead of Bustle. While coach Bustle hasn't taken the next step like everyone was hoping for in his 7 years, he has built a nice base of talent here and they seem like they're continuing to improve ever so slowly. Coach Lee has "talent" which some of you hate to hear but it is a fact so I don't know what to tell you. He has underachieved miserably and even when Bustle lost games to the likes of KSU and Illinois, that team played really well and at a high level. This basketball team has not played like a team except for the ULM win and that is it.They obviously have issues within the team and coach Lee doesn't seem to handle the players real well. _

We have good athletes on the basketball team...I would argue that we don't have many good basketball players. All of our talent is raw and you can do good things with a few raw players but not with a whole roster full of them.