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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    _ Bentley will play on Sundays. Derrick Dean may well join him. Devon Lewis-Buchannan played well at times, especially for a guy we wanted to redshirt.

    Word is that Draylon Booker and Yobes Walker are real.

    Still very early to make assessments, but this class looks like a winner. _
    The 2008 class does look good at this point. This is the same class that some services rated as No. 119 out of 119 back in February. That shows how ridiculous rankings are for schools out of the Top 30. Jay Walker once said on his show that recruiting is important but recruiting rankings are not. That is a good synopsis.

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    Outside of a few elite prospects, very few recruits get a quality evaluation from the experts. How does anyone truly know whether one player will be better at the next level? It's almost impossible in most cases.

    There are so many things to take into account at the next level. How do they respond to challenges? Are they mentally tough enough to respond to adversity? Do they take coaching in a positive manner or take it personally? Can they compete against players as big, strong as fast as they are? Do they love the game enough to dedicate themselves to getting better? Do they have a true killer instinct? Are they willing to sacrifice individual attention for team success? Can they go to class and take care of business off the field?

    None of that comes into play when looking at height, weight, 40-times and strength. Sometimes you just don't know whether a recruit will be the next stud or bust. It's definitely an inexact science.

    Everyone wanted LB Daniel Brooks out of a Class 5A high school and ended up at Tennessee. He got kicked out for various issues and finished up at Jackson State. Meanwhile, LB Patrick Willis was a Class 1A kid that barely got an offer from Ole Miss and yet became an All-American and first-round pick.

    If Tennessee had it to do all over again, there's no doubt they would take Brooks over Willis because he had all the numbers and just looked like a better prospect. Coaches will take a risk on a big-name prospect any day over a small-school recruit who isn't as big or fast.


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    Default personal experience, i'm passing down to a "younger" william (smiles)

    Quote Originally Posted by Parrott View Post
    None of that comes into play when looking at height, weight, 40-times and strength. Sometimes you just don't know whether a recruit will be the next stud or bust. It's definitely an inexact science.
    amen, and AMEN..

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    Default Re: Ragin' Cajuns land two JUCO standouts

    Quote Originally Posted by Parrott View Post
    _ Outside of a few elite prospects, very few recruits get a quality evaluation from the experts. How does anyone truly know whether one player will be better at the next level? It's almost impossible in most cases.

    There are so many things to take into account at the next level. How do they respond to challenges? Are they mentally tough enough to respond to adversity? Do they take coaching in a positive manner or take it personally? Can they compete against players as big, strong as fast as they are? Do they love the game enough to dedicate themselves to getting better? Do they have a true killer instinct? Are they willing to sacrifice individual attention for team success? Can they go to class and take care of business off the field?

    None of that comes into play when looking at height, weight, 40-times and strength. Sometimes you just don't know whether a recruit will be the next stud or bust. It's definitely an inexact science.

    Everyone wanted LB Daniel Brooks out of a Class 5A high school and ended up at Tennessee. He got kicked out for various issues and finished up at Jackson State. Meanwhile, LB Patrick Willis was a Class 1A kid that barely got an offer from Ole Miss and yet became an All-American and first-round pick.

    If Tennessee had it to do all over again, there's no doubt they would take Brooks over Willis because he had all the numbers and just looked like a better prospect. Coaches will take a risk on a big-name prospect any day over a small-school recruit who isn't as big or fast. _
    So true. So true. Unfortunately, everyone is forced to default to the properties that can be measured... and like you said... coaches don't catch heat for taking those who post the right "numbers". Personally, I would intentionally select a couple of undersized "warriors" on every team. I believe that just as some players are constantly being identified as a cancer on a team... these warrior types also "infect" the team with great work ethic, attitude and winning chemistry. UL is forced to seek out that great athlete that is a count off in one of the "Rivals" measurable parameters... but in doing so, there is no substitute like a great character and a warrior heart. There are also many other skills in football that can more than compensate for a weight, height, bench press or 40 "number".

    I'm never overly excited when people talk about a prospect's "parameters". They sound good, but I want to know whether those who routinely evaluate talent say that they believe this young man is going to "contribute" in a big way to our program. That usually covers the kid's value system, personality, work ethic, character... as well as his posted "numbers". I was told in advance of Tyrell Fenroy coming to UL, that we had more than picked up a fantastic little RB. I was told by St. Charles Catholic fans that we were getting one of the finest young men they had ever been around. Quite an accurate assessment. Both attributes equally contributed to his and our success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    _ Nope, you are correct. They denied it when I made the call to the Illinois staff last year. So I
    have no clue if they are were being straight we me or not.

    Damaris is a very special athlete! He is the only one I was personally disappointed in losing out on. _
    Not to dig something up too old (I could have gone back a year), but did anyone see Damaris Johnson last night in the GMAC Bowl (terrible game, I know). This post would fall as burnt roux, but man I really wish we would have gotten Johnson. If you had ever seen him play in person, you would wonder why he wasnt offered by more teams.

    Anyway, from ESPN.com
    Damaris Johnson supplied many of the big plays for Tulsa's no-huddle offense and had 274 all-purpose yards. He had 135 yards receiving, 76 yards rushing -- including a tackle-breaking 62-yarder in the fourth quarter -- and returned three kicks for 63 yards.
    Sorry, just had to let some of you know what we just missed out on if you didn't know. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by wcd35 View Post
    _ Not to dig something up too old (I could have gone back a year), but did anyone see Damaris Johnson last night in the GMAC Bowl (terrible game, I know). This post would fall as burnt roux, but man I really wish we would have gotten Johnson. If you had ever seen him play in person, you would wonder why he wasnt offered by more teams.

    Anyway, from ESPN.com


    Sorry, just had to let some of you know what we just missed out on if you didn't know. :P _


    Uh, you think?

    I was really hoping we were going to get him but I also figured that he would go elsewhere since our O doesn't exactly feature the WR position.

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