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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandwagon King View Post
    You're right there. Sorry about the belly aching. But I wanted him to play for UL & Mark Hudspeth. And I know that's what he wanted too.
    Well wait until it officially doesn't happen before going off about how you can't believe it didn't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    "The problem was your perception based on him going to a class 1-A high school. I kept telling you you needed to open your mind up. I kept telling you that if he continued to do work like he was working he was gonna blow up. "

    Kyle, this comment pretty much explains everything! It's not me you have to convince of anything, its college football coaches! Without getting into all of our private conversations, I advised you to get him into college football camps, not just LSU, UL and the linemen camp at Nichols. Did he attend camps at Tulane, Louisiana Tech, Northwestern State, Southeastern or McNeese? I also advised you to get him to as many junior days as
    possible and to not put your eggs in one basket; Besides UL or LSU, what other junior days did Josh attend?

    In all out conversations until recently, not once did you inform me that you paid for NSCA's services. While they serve a purpose and help many kids, most athletes that are FBS or FCS prospects don't need their services because they will approach all divisions of college football including NAIA, DII or DIII. They offer their services to male and female athletes and their goals are to get you child a scholarship. They are not concerned with what division the program competes in. You made that decision as a parent.

    "And if you know anything about the system you know what I'm saying is the absolute truth. No matter what you say, you know I'm right. You may not have realized the importance before now. But you sure as hell do now, thanks to my son's lost opportunities which we will never even know about. How many more Noah Marks are there out there BJ? Who is going to give those guys a well deserved opportunity?

    Kyle, there are plenty opportunities for kids like Noah Marks, including FCS, NAIA, DII, DIII or Junior College. And there are many kids just like him that are big and strong, but need work on technique, getting the center core of their bodies balanced in a weight and conditioning program or just playing more football against better competition in junior college. You see, being just big and strong doesn't guarantee anyone the opportunity to play at the next level. And proclaiming that a kid is a top 50 talent and snubbing your nose or ignoring those opportunities that many other kids have had to work through to earn a scholarship, is both arrogant and condescending.

    "I appreciate your information & you MAY be right about all that you are saying cocerning UL. But when I click on the Rival's sports web site, or the 24-7 web site. Almost every single picture of every top recruit listed has either an underarmor shirt on in front of a banner with with under armor all over it, or they have their picture with a Nike tee shirt which says NTFC. I'm going to assume that means National Training Football Combine. Almost every single top rated player in America. We're not talking about the top 50. We're talking about the top 5000 or more. The cold hard truth is that those combines are absolutely the easiest best way for an athlete, especially from a small school to get noticed by virtue of their athletic ability. Because they go through all the combine skills together with every FBS school in America watching. The coaches aren't running the drills. They are standing there watching the players go through the drills & evaluating in real time evidently."

    Again, here is another example of you thinking you know everything because you have already made up your mind or drawing conclusions. First, there are former coaches or players running those camps and conducting the drills. But not a single one of them are current coaches at any NCAA football program today. It is against NCAA rules for any currently employed college football coach to attend combines put on by any national organization outside of the NCAA. They can get those combine numbers by paying for them from that particular service. This is why college football programs put on their own camps on so that their staff's can evaluate athletes much closer. There are many kids from the inner city or rural areas that can not afford to attend these camps or don't have the transportation to get to them. You won't see them wearing any NUC or Nike shirt, but some of them will end up signing with very good football program on National Signing Day and eventually get ranked. This is why UL and others are conducting off campus camps, to get to kids that otherwise could not attend your camp on site or any other camps.

    Do those national combines help kids, yes. For the most part, some of them are just about getting top kids to come out and compete, while trying to influence or direct athletes to certain programs. In some cases, they are very similar to AAU Basketball or All Star teams.

    I made this last post to answer you and to give one last bit of advice. It is July and a number of schools are going to have camps this month. Get on the phone and call McNeese, Louisiana Tech, ULM, Southeastern, Tulane and Northwestern State to see if you can get him in to any of those camps. Its not the end of world and Josh hasn't even played his senior year. Then this fall, bring him to as many games as possible on unofficial visits to show those programs you and he are interested. If you chose not to do those things, then that is your decision.
    Thanks for the info on the coaches. Of course I'd know better had I sent him. Now explain how almost every top rated recruit doesn't attend those combines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazycajun View Post
    Well wait until it officially doesn't happen before going off about how you can't believe it didn't happen.
    So I could hear even more excuses about how if I wasn't a lazy slob of a dad I could have held his hand while he hit a blocking dummy at the UL camp? And that some how would have magically gotten him to the select camp? I'm facing the music now brother so we can move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandwagon King View Post
    Thanks for the info on the coaches. Of course I'd know better had I sent him. Now explain how almost every top rated recruit doesn't attend those combines.
    See Elijah McGuire and Jamal Robinson as to why those camps miss so many kids, yet they still seem to find a way to get offers. And see the countless others that attend those camps and still aren't ranked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandwagon King View Post
    So I could hear even more excuses about how if I wasn't a lazy slob of a dad I could have held his hand while he hit a blocking dummy at the UL camp? And that some how would have magically gotten him to the select camp? I'm facing the music now brother so we can move on.
    Had hudspeth seen your son in a camp or game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    See Elijah McGuire and Jamal Robinson as to why those camps miss so many kids, yet they still seem to find a way to get offers. And see the countless others that attend those camps and still aren't ranked.
    Where did McGuire & Robinson attend school? And furthermore, if they are letting a guy like Xenno walk & a guy like Marks walk, or walk on, it gives me full clarity as to where this program is or believes it is either one. As I wrote last year UL is not very far behind LSU. I have to accept what I cannot change. And it is what it is. But one last time for the record. And let me attempt to say this without ruffling anybody's feathers. It can only help a potential recruit if they attend a combine camp. Because their numbers can be adjusted upward with participation in another camp just like taking the ACT. But if you don't go you can be hurt severely. Especially if your combine numbers are strong & you are from a small school. That is all. Thanks to all for a very therapeutic dose of reality.

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    Kyle who is the Xenno kid that you are referring to? Are you talking about Kyle Zenon from VC? If so McNeese will let him do track and football and UL wouldn't...Zenon prefers track over football so that is why he is at McNeese...I love when UL gets local guys but you cant fault them if/when they over look your kid...It is a business man...Josh needs to just work hard and see what happens...Where is the head coach in this process, they are supposed to try there best to get kids looked at...Brent Indest, Louie Cook and Ted Davison help kids when they feel like they have kids getting over looked and even when they don't...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandwagon King View Post
    You're right there. Sorry about the belly aching. But I wanted him to play for UL & Mark Hudspeth. And I know that's what he wanted too.
    Take the donation you didn't have to give the baseball team and pay his way....and he can walk on. Done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charliek View Post
    Take the donation you didn't have to give the baseball team and pay his way....and he can walk on. Done.
    From the description he gave on page 1 of this thread he stated that his son had a 3.0 GPA and 24 ACT. That's good for the TOPs Performance award, which is the middle level TOPs. Tuition plus $400.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFan3406 View Post
    From the description he gave on page 1 of this thread he stated that his son had a 3.0 GPA and 24 ACT. That's good for the TOPs Performance award, which is the middle level TOPs. Tuition plus $400.
    Then if UL and Hud are the dream....it's easy. If he's good enough he will play. Damn, we could have saved 11 pages. Scholarships are year to year anyway, so it's not like having a scholarship will protect him if Hud leaves after this year. His only protection is his own performance anyway. Are scholarships still year to year?

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