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  1. #97

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    _ Don't have to...

    30.9.2.1 Exception—12 Game Season. [FBS]

    An institution with a record of six wins and six losses may be selected for participation in a bowl game under the following circumstances: (Adopted: 4/27/06 effective 8/1/06)


    (a) The institution or its conference has a primary contractual affiliation, which existed prior to the first contest of the applicable season, with the sponsoring bowl organization. In the case of a conference contractual affiliation, all conference teams with winning records must be placed in one of the contracted bowl games before any institution with a record of six wins and six losses may be placed in a contracted bowl game. There shall be no contingency agreements with other sponsoring bowl organizations intended to enable an institution with a record of six wins and six losses to become eligible for those contests; or


    (b) All contractual affiliations per Bylaw 30.9.2.1-(a) have been fulfilled and all institutions with winning records have received bowl invitations (either through a contractual affiliation or as an at-large selection). _
    This says 2 things, and 2 things only:
    1. 7-5 teams must fill a conference's bowl slots before it can select 6-6 teams from that conference to fill that slot. (IE All 7-5 sec teams must be placed in bowls before selecting a 6-6 SEC team)

    2. A 7-5 record gets selected before a 6-6 team with a contingency agreement.

    Nothing is mentioned here about 6-6 teams except as it related to 7-5 teams. Unless the SBC's contract with the Independence Bowl specifically states that the SBC representative has to be 7-5, or unless contracts don't mean anything, this is a no-brainer and the Independence Bowl will have to take a 6-6 Sun Belt team over any other 6-6 team.

    This doesn't take a degree in rocket science. You only have to slow down and read.

  2. #98

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    I think that final post is correct. LA tech, Indy bowl or ESPN cannot argue with that.


  3. #99

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    Quote Originally Posted by jllanclos View Post
    this is a no-brainer and the Independence Bowl will have to take a 6-6 Sun Belt team over any other 6-6 team._
    Obviously it isn't that simple. If it was, the I-Bowl and St. Pete's wouldn't be talking to other schools. There would be nothing for anybody to review and this discussion wouldn't be taking place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    _ Obviously it isn't that simple. If it was, the I-Bowl and St. Pete's wouldn't be talking to other schools. There would be nothing for anybody to review and this discussion wouldn't be taking place. _

    it is that simple. they are simply maneuvering to get out of the deal. parties are allowed to argue whatever they want. that doesnt mean the contract is any less clear. i just hope whoever rules on this doesnt have any personal benefit to be gained, and rules properly.

  5. #101

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcobra View Post
    _ it is that simple.
    You mind posting a copy of it so we can see?

  6. #102

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcobra View Post
    _ it is that simple. they are simply maneuvering to get out of the deal. parties are allowed to argue whatever they want. that doesnt mean the contract is any less clear. i just hope whoever rules on this doesnt have any personal benefit to be gained, and rules properly. _
    One thing I hope is that if it does come down in the SBC's favor (on the appeal) that no bridges are burned with ESPN. That would be a killer for the SBC.

    Our recruiting this year is going great due to us playing on ESPN2 and winning on the Hail Mary. Funny thing is, the kids don't care about us winning or the atmosphere...... the recruits are most impressed with the black jerseys we wore. Go figure.

    Can a media-starved conference like the SBC afford to infuriate ESPN?

    Maybe we won't exasperate ESPN (who knows what goes on behind closed doors?), but I've got a feeling we'll kowtow down to the powers that be.

    Maybe the city of Lafayette should create their own bowl. Much better than Shreveport, and probably much more funding. Shreveport seems like a very poor city to me (sans the casinos)--- Lafayette seems to be a up and coming, mover and shaker.

    Then maybe UL could "kick and scream" and try to "not let" LaTech into a bowl in the future.

  7. #103

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    Question: why is the WAC allowed to release Tech (a 7-5 team) and fill one of their WAC tie-ins with a 6-6 team, while the SBC can't release troy (a 7-5 team) from the N.O. bowl and allow a 6-6 team in?

    Are are there more 7-5 wac teams than bowl tie-ins?

    Um, I guess that's 2 questions.


  8. #104

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    Quote Originally Posted by jllanclos View Post
    Question: why is the WAC allowed to release Tech (a 7-5 team) and fill one of their WAC tie-ins with a 6-6 team
    They didn't. The WAC has 4 affiliated bowls this year (one contingency) and five 7 win teams.

  9. #105

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnylightnin View Post
    You know, this wouldn't be an issue if y'all had a few more 7 win teams. _

    That's a whole different issue - one I choose not to explore here and now. lol!

  10. #106

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    http://collegefootball.rivals.com/co...asp?CID=884873

    These just came out.

    Yahoo shows NIU in the Indy Bowl, which I don't see possible because NIU is a 6-6 team and there is other 6-6 sunbelt teams out there.
    That would be funny if NIU went to the Indy Bowl, wow what a regional location for them!!!!

    Also they leave the cajuns out and put Ark. St. in the Papajohns bowl. If Ark. St. loses to Troy that would leave more 6-6 team out there, so it would be a toss up.

    I can't make sense of all this.


  11. #107

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    if we win tonight and independence plays out like the above scenario shows above, the sun belt should first sue the independence bowl for brach of contract and then cajun fans should flood every news media outlet available on how the independence bowl screws teams and breaches contracts - but I would not be suprised to see independence screw the cajuns they did it before when Mitchell was qb and UL had a shot at that bowl.


  12. #108

    Ragin' Cajuns Re: So if we win we are in?

    Quote Originally Posted by UL_Cajuns View Post
    _ http://collegefootball.rivals.com/co...asp?CID=884873

    These just came out.

    Yahoo shows NIU in the Indy Bowl, which I don't see possible because NIU is a 6-6 team and there is other 6-6 sunbelt teams out there.
    That would be funny if NIU went to the Indy Bowl, wow what a regional location for them!!!!

    Also they leave the cajuns out and put Ark. St. in the Papajohns bowl. If Ark. St. loses to Troy that would leave more 6-6 team out there, so it would be a toss up.

    I can't make sense of all this. _
    The NIU to the Indy makes absolutely no sense. A team with a 6-6 record from the MAC from Northern Illinios???

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