UL/Louisiana Branding

[Ragin9221]

It doesn't say if the city tag with each university is their official name or not, but I suspect it is not, just a reference. I would bet LA Tech would fight having to use at Ruston with their name, but see no problem with our being required to. Also, the law requires two schools to have the University of Louisiana name and both must use the city tag. And any use of "University of" or "UL" requires the city tag. The law is very specific and that is all it addresses. So, when we use Louisiana, we are not in violation of the law because we haven't used "University of" Louisiana. When we use UL alone, we are in violation of the law because we don't include Lafayette. So, what other abbreviation would not be in violation of the law? How about LU? It in no way implies University of Louisiana.

If we are not going to try and change our name to Louisiana University and I can understand why we would not, we can get by legally with Louisiana and LU. Of course, that requires everyone to change from UL to LU. Seems like a small sacrifice to stay legal and finally get a completely legal reference that we want. No more UL-L, UL Lafayette, Louisiana Lafayette, U La La, Lafayette, U Laf, Laf, LL, and any other variation we all have seen.

Why can't we all get on the same page on something like this and adopt something that, although it may violate the spirit of the law as someone stated, is clearly legal and something we can use NOW? We would certainly be in good company with other universities who do the same thing, i.e. University of Oklahoma, OU, University of Kansas, KU, and University of Colorado, CU. It is time to end the madness.

LU is the way to go. They would have to use Louisiana. Until someone sends us to court, that is what we do.

[CAJUNJUDO]

LU is the way to go. They would have to use Louisiana. Until someone sends us to court, that is what we do.

...but....but....no matter which way I turn my hands, I can't get them to read "LU" - now what are we going to do?

[ULGrad@HOU]

I haven't posted even the slightest thing in support of LSU and never would.

Sure you haven't.......as justafan83, but how about when you are tLsu?

[HoustonCajun]

...but....but....no matter which way I turn my hands, I can't get them to read "LU" - now what are we going to do?

A small sacrifice for a national identity. I think the hand signs originated in the SWC with the Longhorn sign. Other schools like UH and Texas Tech tried to copy and have some unrecognizable signs. It doesn't work for most schools. While UL is a neat hand sign, it is likely recognized only by UL fans. Hate to lose it, but LU will take us to a much higher recognition. Other than Lamar and Liberty, can you think of another LU school?

[Turbine]

The law as stated requires 2 universities for the University of name along with a city tag for each. If we went to the legislature and obtained the Louisiana University name, the same law would still apply to ULM. They would have to either find another school that wanted a name change like Southeastern to UL Hammond, they could keep ULM. If no other school came forward, they would have to change their name as they would NEVER be the University of Louisiana.

Do we have a delegation strong enough to get this passed in the legislature. Will any other school care if we are Louisiana University so long as we are not the University of Louisiana and perceived to be the flagship of the UL System?

If we are not willing to take it this far, then change our abbreviation. We can't use UL. We do use UL-L, but we all hate that. So, keep it all legal and go to LU and Louisiana athletically, even if we remain officially the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. Get creative and do something to get this whole thing in allignment and focus more on the LOUISIANA than Ragin Cajuns.

It was a law without principle.

Principles require logical reasoning.

Back in 1984 they never broached the principle behind why UL didn't deserve to be THE University of Louisiana.

In 1995 they never broached the principle behind why there needed to be two.

So in the end the largest school in the system could not be the one, but it absolutely did not matter how small the second school was. The smallest school in the system could have been the 2nd one.

The unprincipled name rule.

[Turbine]

Allow me to play devil's advocate for a moment. Yes, LSU is the flagship university of the state, as per La. R.S. 17:3215, which reads:

"The Louisiana State University system is composed of the institutions under the supervision and management of the Board of Supervisors of Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College as follows:

(1) Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College, located at Baton Rouge and designated as the premier flagship university for the state.

"premier flagship" indicates the existence of other flagships.

[Turbine]

I wasn't reading it when I typed it but it does say "all uses of the name "University of Louisiana" must be followed by the word "at" and the institutions geographic location". Section III D.

Then it goes to great exaggerated lengths to declare "no" variations.

Which of course make a hyphen illegal.

It even makes ULL illegal.

So then they had to add a clause declaring ULR as a legal exception/OPTION.

[CajunDreDog]

My God, is is football season yet? 4 days in.....

I'm gonna go start a band thread, nah uniform thread.

[HoustonCajun]

A small sacrifice for a national identity. I think the hand signs originated in the SWC with the Longhorn sign. Other schools like UH and Texas Tech tried to copy and have some unrecognizable signs. It doesn't work for most schools. While UL is a neat hand sign, it is likely recognized only by UL fans. Hate to lose it, but LU will take us to a much higher recognition. Other than Lamar and Liberty, can you think of another LU school?

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Thought more about it. We can still use the hand sign, but just form the "L" without the U. Would be more recognizable to everyone than UL which has a similar look the the UT Longhorn sign.

[Just1More]

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Thought more about it. We can still use the hand sign, but just form the "L" without the U. Would be more recognizable to everyone than UL which has a similar look the the UT Longhorn sign.

When it comes to "LU", just take both hands and form the "thumbs down" hand sign.