UL/Louisiana Branding

[CajunSaint]

Sorry, I'm not going through the bylaws of the state of Ohio for you just because you can't seem to focus on the actual point.

lil' dude, you're tiresome. please go away. and stop saying "we" and "us." geaux UL!

[CajunAmos]

Sorry, I'm not going through the bylaws of the state of Ohio for you just because you can't seem to focus on the actual point.

I think those arguing with you understand your point, which is quit complaining when a broadcaster or broadcasting entity doesn't comply with the universities naming request. They just don't agree with the plan of "sit back, be quiet, and eventually with continued success you'll get what you want" actually works.

[justafan83]

lil' dude, you're tiresome. please go away. and stop saying "we" and "us." geaux UL!

Lil' dude? I'm sure that has some sort of intimidating factor to someone, especially on an internet message board. I'm sorry for using "we" and "us" when referring to a group of people that I'm a part of. I didn't invent English, though.

[Turbine]

Jesus. We are not Nebraska, nor are we Texas. And those two schools have it listed as names to reference the school by. The University of Louisiana at Lafayette does not legally provide for any other references other than the references I previously listed, which is why espn has argued that it won't call us anything other than the official references. I'm sure in the midst of your extensive research you can find one of the dozens of articles on the subject. Also, I will provide a link to the actual graphic standards manual that lists everything I've described. I just think the fans need to worry about the respect the university earns, and not the respect it asks for. If we keep moving in the right direction, we will get the respect we deserve and have an easier time getting our way. Until we get there, whining over every little slight is not good for the university.

http://www.louisiana.edu/sites/louis...dards-2013.pdf

Non of which excludes "Louisiana" as 100% legal.

In fact some of the "official" requests are 100% illegal.

[justafan83]

Non of which excludes "Louisiana" as 100% legal.

In fact some of the "official" requests are 100% illegal.

http://www.ulsystem.net/assets/docs/...e_policies.pdf

This is the last thing I'm posting about this and the link is a little off my main point anyway, but it does outline the state legislature for the university of louisiana system regarding names. No, I don't believe anyone should sit back and wait for a change that the university wants. But there are proper ways outlined to actually change the name. Obviously, we don't have the respect or ability or whatever it takes at this time to get it done or it would be done by now. All I'm saying is getting mad and vilifying someone for using the actual name is pointless and just makes the person look like a jerk. Take it however you want.

[Big Silly]

Lil' dude? I'm sure that has some sort of intimidating factor to someone, especially on an internet message board. I'm sorry for using "we" and "us" when referring to a group of people that I'm a part of. I didn't invent English, though.

just go away

[Turbine]

Sorry, I'm not going through the bylaws of the state of Ohio for you just because you can't seem to focus on the actual point.

I can save you a little trouble.

Nicknames everywhere are invented by fans (not bylaws) and not universities.

Both of those entities may later utilize and implement fanbased nicknames into their documents, but you will not find laws stating "Texas" means University of Texas. And yet in sports, it does.

Fans decide.

[justafan83]

I can save you a little trouble.

Nicknames everywhere are invented by fans (not bylaws) and not universities.

Both of those entities may later utilize and implement fanbased nicknames into their documents, but you will not find laws stating "Texas" means University of Texas. And yet in sports, it does.

Fans decide.

False, pretty much on all counts. But believe whatever you would like. If that were the case, there would be no debate about Redskins, and any school in Texas could decide they wanted to be called Texas.

[jllanclos]

http://www.ulsystem.net/assets/docs/...e_policies.pdf

This is the last thing I'm posting about this

So much for this, eh?

[Turbine]

http://www.ulsystem.net/assets/docs/...e_policies.pdf

This is the last thing I'm posting about this and the link is a little off my main point anyway, but it does outline the state legislature for the university of louisiana system regarding names. No, I don't believe anyone should sit back and wait for a change that the university wants. But there are proper ways outlined to actually change the name. Obviously, we don't have the respect or ability or whatever it takes at this time to get it done or it would be done by now. All I'm saying is getting mad and vilifying someone for using the actual name is pointless and just makes the person look like a jerk. Take it however you want.

The only broadcaster I have ever heard use UL's legal name is James P. Bitterman.

PS according to that document usage of "UL Lafayette" is illegal.

[Just1More]

Jesus. We are not Nebraska, nor are we Texas. And those two schools have it listed as names to reference the school by. The University of Louisiana at Lafayette does not legally provide for any other references other than the references I previously listed, which is why espn has argued that it won't call us anything other than the official references. I'm sure in the midst of your extensive research you can find one of the dozens of articles on the subject. Also, I will provide a link to the actual graphic standards manual that lists everything I've described. I just think the fans need to worry about the respect the university earns, and not the respect it asks for. If we keep moving in the right direction, we will get the respect we deserve and have an easier time getting our way. Until we get there, whining over every little slight is not good for the university.

http://www.louisiana.edu/sites/louis...dards-2013.pdf

We, the fans of UL, have been very good natured about the promotion of our nicknames, UL (in general) and Louisiana Ragin Cajuns (athletic). Every one of us realizes and recognizes our state mandated legal name and use it in all official capacities. The UL fan didn't go around telling every other school fan what to call us. We (most passionate fans) openly use our own preferred name and ask our own supporters and the media to use preferred names. When anti UL people stuck their noses into our communication of that name to media, it became contentious. You make it out as if we, the passionate fan, should not bother with the preferred nickname and just go along with the mandated official name. We're not going to do it. You call it "whining". It is simply sticking to the plan. We're not going to stop using our preferred name and we are going to continue to promote it with media.

And winning is happening. Winning is not distracted by the name. We are building and growing and winning because we have specific processes in place supporting building, growing and winning. Don't concern yourself with the name if you can't handle that process. You are incorrect about it distracting anything positive. The people that are against us, are against us regardless of the name. If someone tells you that they'd "like us" or "support us " or "not fight us" if only we'd stop the "name issue", they are a bold face liar. Anyone that argues with us over the name isn't ever going to be a "friend of UL". So, if your panties get balled up because you think own name battle ____es off some folks... you need to wear some loose fitting undergarments until you come out of the unrealistic state of "who cares about UL".

I'm not going to say that someone standing in front of me one day isn't going to get their jack crushed because I don't like them. I just cannot guarantee that won't happen. But, for the most part, I go about my business and when it comes to our school "name", I laugh off the outside knucklehead that gets wound up about what we call ourselves and the fact we try to get media to go along. You need to try that too. Just chill out, and stop making up BS about how "we need to stop attempting to get our preferred name out in as wide and large of a promotion as we wish to". "That" is the "this isn't a big deal thing". It's the outside group that doesn't want us to use the nicknames that need to stop whining. And most importantly, if it doesn't sink into your head as to which side needs to stop whining... you weren't on the right side to begin with.

[Hammer58]

Earl, the truth is until TAF was fully functional in 1986 and a few years afterwards LSU sucked on the tit for state dollars for almost 100 years! Some of you are pretty ignorant when it comes to when LSU athletics actually became self-sustaining.

You didn't have to qualify the statement, T. Just leaving it as being "pretty ignorant" described Earl perfectly.