UL/Louisiana Branding

[Turbine]

I wasn't reading it when I typed it but it does say "all uses of the name "University of Louisiana" must be followed by the word "at" and the institutions geographic location". Section III D.

Then it goes to great exaggerated lengths to declare "no" variations.

Which of course make a hyphen illegal.

It even makes ULL illegal.

So then they had to add a clause declaring ULR as a legal exception/OPTION.

[CajunDreDog]

My God, is is football season yet? 4 days in.....

I'm gonna go start a band thread, nah uniform thread.

[HoustonCajun]

A small sacrifice for a national identity. I think the hand signs originated in the SWC with the Longhorn sign. Other schools like UH and Texas Tech tried to copy and have some unrecognizable signs. It doesn't work for most schools. While UL is a neat hand sign, it is likely recognized only by UL fans. Hate to lose it, but LU will take us to a much higher recognition. Other than Lamar and Liberty, can you think of another LU school?

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Thought more about it. We can still use the hand sign, but just form the "L" without the U. Would be more recognizable to everyone than UL which has a similar look the the UT Longhorn sign.

[Just1More]

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Thought more about it. We can still use the hand sign, but just form the "L" without the U. Would be more recognizable to everyone than UL which has a similar look the the UT Longhorn sign.

When it comes to "LU", just take both hands and form the "thumbs down" hand sign.

[Oiler]

LU is the way to go. They would have to use Louisiana. Until someone sends us to court, that is what we do.

Why don't we take this issue to court ourselves? Settle it once and for all. We're either UL or we are not. Personally, I think our chances would be pretty good of winning.

[Hammer58]

To those who get upset about the "obsession" some of us have about the name, I suggest you visit the message boards of the other schools in this state. On almost all of those message boards you will find at least one thread concerning UL (mostly derogatory) and if the thread isn't specifically about the name it will contain elements of the name issue to some extent. From the usual suspects like Ulmost and Brikeback JC down to uno, with all of its problems, they are concerned with the Cajuns using and being recognized as Louisiana and UL. So if it's not important why is there all that not caring going on?

[HoustonCajun]

When it comes to "LU", just take both hands and form the "thumbs down" hand sign.

Don't like it, huh? Well, we need to do something. I don't want to be fighting the UL name issue another 14 years down the road. Doesn't seem to hurt OU, KU and CU. Just trying to find a legal alternative that gives us an acceptable identity to go along with Louisiana. There aren't many alternatives that are attractive, identifiable and usable.

[Just1More]

Don't like it, huh? Well, we need to do something. I don't want to be fighting the UL name issue another 14 years down the road. Doesn't seem to hurt OU, KU and CU. Just trying to find a legal alternative that gives us an acceptable identity to go along with Louisiana. There aren't many alternatives that are attractive, identifiable and usable.

You're not changing the battle by changing the order of the letters. We could go to court with anything you want, but we are part of a state system. The court would question our intent to leave the state system. Do you plan on UL becoming a private institution? This institution belongs to the state. The state has to rule on any state school name change. The courts will not change our name. They will only rule on the state constitutionality of the permission granted or denied. We will be denied. And the courts will uphold that decision.

Regardless of the frustration, our legal name is what it is. Our nickname is the only item to work on. If you think that battle is difficult, frustrating, makes us look bad, isn't worth fighting, won't be won... any or all of the aforementioned... it is irrelevant. My greatest frustration is the unbelievable (to me) lack of understanding of the fact that when we did not win our legal challenge... we are stuck with our legal name. Our absollute only choice is to use it without any objectionable short versions... or continue to use the preferred nicknames. I prefer hanging in there with the preferred nicknames and to stop whining about the problems it creates.

When I am met with opposition in life, I may "wish" it would go away... but if I feel my battle has a principle "to me" that is worth the fight... I'm going to break it off in quite a few people before I lay down for my eternal life after life. I guess I just don't care if it is a battle. I disagree it makes us look small. I believe every day we grow and succeed, it makes everyone else look small for arguing with us.

I do, however, get very tired of having to both throttle the punks that blur the issue... while having you and a couple of others go off on this altogether totally tangential run on another name. We are definitely NOT going for another name... EVER... other than a future possible discussion with the state to clearly define us as "not the flagship - but the rightful owner of the name 'University of Louisiana'". Until that day comes around, regardless if it is two centuries from now... and there is no longer a state called Louisiana... we are sticking with what we're working with.

[Ragin9221]

You're not changing the battle by changing the order of the letters. We could go to court with anything you want, but we are part of a state system. The court would question our intent to leave the state system. Do you plan on UL becoming a private institution? This institution belongs to the state. The state has to rule on any state school name change. The courts will not change our name. They will only rule on the state constitutionality of the permission granted or denied. We will be denied. And the courts will uphold that decision.

Regardless of the frustration, our legal name is what it is. Our nickname is the only item to work on. If you think that battle is difficult, frustrating, makes us look bad, isn't worth fighting, won't be won... any or all of the aforementioned... it is irrelevant. My greatest frustration is the unbelievable (to me) lack of understanding of the fact that when we did not win our legal challenge... we are stuck with our legal name. Our absollute only choice is to use it without any objectionable short versions... or continue to use the preferred nicknames. I prefer hanging in there with the preferred nicknames and to stop whining about the problems it creates.

When I am met with opposition in life, I may "wish" it would go away... but if I feel my battle has a principle "to me" that is worth the fight... I'm going to break it off in quite a few people before I lay down for my eternal life after life. I guess I just don't care if it is a battle. I disagree it makes us look small. I believe every day we grow and succeed, it makes everyone else look small for arguing with us.

I do, however, get very tired of having to both throttle the punks that blur the issue... while having you and a couple of others go off on this altogether totally tangential run on another name. We are definitely NOT going for another name... EVER... other than a future possible discussion with the state to clearly define us as "not the flagship - but the rightful owner of the name 'University of Louisiana'". Until that day comes around, regardless if it is two centuries from now... and there is no longer a state called Louisiana... we are sticking with what we're working with.

Well There is no law saying we can't use LU. This is not rocket science, if we are Louisiana we need to come up with alternatives to be known as Louisiana.

We don't have to change our name we just change the abbreviations to our name.

[Hammer58]

Well There is no law saying we can't use LU. This is not rocket science, if we are Louisiana we need to come up with alternatives to be known as Louisiana.

As one sage suggested just put a single L on the caps. No whining about the UL, "but Louisville uses it", etc.

[Ragin9221]

Why just use the L? I dont think ESPN would just let a L to be used as our name. All the university has to do is have a press release saying the only abbreviations allowed would be LU, Louisiana, or Louisiana Ragin Cajuns, none of this UL-L, UL-Laf bs.

There is nothing in the LSU rule that prohibits us from using LU, it only applies to UL.

[Hammer58]

Why just use the L? I dont think ESPN would just let a L to be used as our name. All the university has to do is have a press release saying the only abbreviations allowed would be LU, Louisiana, or Louisiana Ragin Cajuns, none of this UL-L, UL-Laf bs.

There is nothing in the LSU rule that prohibits us from using LU, it only applies to UL.

No I was referring to our baseball caps. For TV just tell them to use LA, the abbreviation for Louisiana.