UL/Louisiana Branding

[RaginDave]

Actually, there isn't anything I know of that says a state can't have two flagship schools, but Act 45 from the 1995 session does say that no school in the University of Louisiana system can call itself the flagship school of the system, and any university material that says University of Louisiana must be followed by "at" and the geographic location. However, none of that has anything to do with the athletic team name, which is Louisiana Ragin Cajuns. There's a whole policy available on louisiana.edu that explains how to comply with the Act.

California has two distinct systems. The Cal State, which is headquarted in Long Beach and could be technically the Flagship of the Cal State and the UC system which UC-Berkley is the flagship university.

[Hammer58]

California has two distinct systems. The Cal State, which is headquarted in Long Beach and could be technically the Flagship of the Cal State and the UC system which UC-Berkley is the flagship university.

I believe Texas currently has two and could have more as they just set "flagship" criteria and any school meeting the standards will be designated as such.

[justafan83]

When has our administration ever stated it wants to be the flagship of the ULS? I know UNO's chancellor tried to claim that moniker the day they joined the system. Proponents of LowTech have claimed it, especially during their attempt to seize LSU-Shreveport. But I don't recall any UL official ever making that claim.


And isn't it funny that many, if not all, of the tools the scream the loudest about us not using our "proper", "legal" name also fail yo use it? According to that statute you summarized "Louisiana Lafayette", "Louisiana -Lafayette", "Lafayette", etc are all in violation. None of them use "at". Yet only they only concern themselves with one "illegal" name.

I never said that the administration said that. I was responding to someone who asked the question of whether there was any law that says a state can't have two flagship schools.

[tetragrammaton]

I wasn't reading it when I typed it but it does say "all uses of the name "University of Louisiana" must be followed by the word "at" and the institutions geographic location". Section III D.

Ok, sorry... clarification. Yes, the UL System policy does say that. But the legislative Act (Act 45 from 1995) is silent on that.

But the statute,

[Hammer58]

I never said that the administration said that. I was responding to someone who asked the question of whether there was any law that says a state can't have two flagship schools.

Sorry, that wasn't directed at you. I just try to point that out whenever "flagship status" gets brought up in a discussion of our naming preference. The "flagship" argument is a strawman that our opponents always try to throw out there as justification for their opposition to us using UL. It's become a talking point of late with the LowTech boys. "I wouldn't care if you were called UL but it implies you are the flagship of our system".

[justafan83]

Ok, sorry... clarification. Yes, the UL System policy does say that. But the legislative Act (Act 45 from 1995) is silent on that.

But the statute,

I've never seen the actual act, and I could have swore that 5 minutes ago you just asked me how you would be able to find it so I assumed you've never read the actual Act. I just figured the University of Louisiana Policy on how to comply with Act 45 would be a sufficient enough cliff notes. Either way, I only posted the link to answer the question about whether or not the state could have two flagship universities. Also, I've seen it about a dozen times on here from different people, but LSU A&M isn't the flagship school of the state of Louisiana. It's the flagship school of the Louisiana State University System.

[tetragrammaton]

I mean to say, "but the Act passed by the legislature was silent."

A friend sent me a copy a while back, and I just had to find it.

But note that it says, "Any such name change shall in no way affect the status of Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College as the premier flagship university for the state."

Premier flagship.

Meaning, you can still have more than one.

[justafan83]

I mean to say, "but the Act passed by the legislature was silent."

A friend sent me a copy a while back, and I just had to find it.

But note that it says, "Any such name change shall in no way affect the status of Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College as the premier flagship university for the state."

Premier flagship.

Meaning, you can still have more than one.

What says that? The Act itself or the policy I linked? Honestly can't tell if you're making a joke or if you're actually quoting something.

[tetragrammaton]

What says that? The Act itself or the policy I linked? Honestly can't tell if you're making a joke or if you're actually quoting something.

Sorry, we've been going back and forth from one to the other.

Yes, Act 45 from 1995, as it amends R.S. 17:3217. Not the System policy.

[tetragrammaton]

R.S. 17:3217:

http://legis.la.gov/lss/lss.asp?doc=80675

[justafan83]

R.S. 17:3217:

http://legis.la.gov/lss/lss.asp?doc=80675

I still don't see that anywhere in the link you posted? All I see is:
§3217. University of Louisiana System

The University of Louisiana System is composed of the institutions under the supervision and management of the Board of Supervisors for the University of Louisiana System as follows:

(1) Grambling State University at Grambling.

(2) Louisiana Tech University at Ruston.

(3) McNeese State University at Lake Charles.

(4) Nicholls State University at Thibodaux.

(5) Northwestern State University of Louisiana at Natchitoches.

(6) Southeastern Louisiana University at Hammond.

(7) The University of Louisiana at Lafayette.

(8) The University of Louisiana at Monroe.

(9) The University of New Orleans.

(10) Any other college, university, school, institution or program now or hereafter under the supervision and management of the Board of Supervisors for the University of Louisiana System.

Added by Acts 1975, No. 313, §2, eff. July 17, 1975. Amended by Acts 1980, No. 250, §1; Acts 1992, No. 341, §1, eff. July 1, 1992; Acts 1995, No. 45, §1, eff. June 8, 1995; Acts 1995, No. 634, §1, eff. June 20, 1995; Acts 1997, No. 33, §1, eff. May 29, 1997; Acts 1997, No. 1369, §1, eff. July 1, 1997; Acts 1998, 1st Ex. Sess., No. 151, §1, eff. July 1, 1999; Acts 2011, No. 419, §1, eff. July 12, 2011.

I would like to actually see that quote because that seems like a ridiculous thing to write into legislature.

[tetragrammaton]

sorry, wrong link. It was from Act 45 from 1995, as it amends R.S. 49:1101. Not the System policy.

Here it is:
http://www.legis.state.la.us/lss/lss.asp?doc=103486