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  1. #151

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRanchMan View Post
    All of the above are the flagship universities of their respective systems. They are the oldest, largest & original university in their respective systems & these factors are synonymous with other universities that refer to themselves as university of “state”. Also, none of the above have legal restrictions with the use of their name. Regardless of how UL wants to “brand” themselves, the use of “Louisiana” is a violation of the spirit of the law in question.

    The UL administration takes a lot of heat for not promoting the name & allowing the national media to use UL-Lafayette or ULL. The administration knows they are walking a fine line using “Louisiana” & is reluctant promote said name. In addition, the administration fears ULM will change their name again or ask the state legislature to close all loopholes in the law, which is more likely.

    This is a long shot, but UL should team up with LSU & LTU and attempt to convert most, if not all, of the other four year universities in the state into junior colleges. We are too small of a state to have this many four year universities. UL, LSU & LTU would all benefit as would higher education in the state. However, we know that politics would get into the way of progress & is unlikely to ever happen.
    "Spirit", like principle, has nothing to do with the law. It's all about the fine print, wording and technicalities. And the use of "Louisiana" was not specifically prohibited.

    And frankly, when it comes to athletics and our branding, I really don't give a ____ about "the law"

  2. #152

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer58 View Post
    "Easily your most level-headed post."
    You know, I agree that this was his most level-headed post. But he fully reveals his real motivations for kicking up all of this dust as well. In arguing about the spirit of the grossly unfair law he so heartily supports, our guest here shows that this isn't about law, it isn't about not wanting us to look like whiners. It isn't even about the use of the "legal" name of the university. This is all about our guest being butthurt because someone is impinging on the turf (real or perceived) of his beloved A&M. He's just an intellectually dishonest poser. Not worth your time. Let him go back to Refineryville, his shift at the Olive Garden is about to start.

  3. #153

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    well since I am retiring from the Military maybe I should run for a state office even if I don't win I can push the UL name issue and make my opponents have to take a stand on it one way or another. Maybe this will bring some light to the BS law that was done way back when and we could get it changed.


  4. #154

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun Soldier View Post
    well since I am retiring from the Military maybe I should run for a state office even if I don't win I can push the UL name issue and make my opponents have to take a stand on it one way or another. Maybe this will bring some light to the BS law that was done way back when and we could get it changed.
    You sir, have my vote.

  5. #155

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexhead View Post
    You know, I agree that this was his most level-headed post. But he fully reveals his real motivations for kicking up all of this dust as well. In arguing about the spirit of the grossly unfair law he so heartily supports, our guest here shows that this isn't about law, it isn't about not wanting us to look like whiners. It isn't even about the use of the "legal" name of the university. This is all about our guest being butthurt because someone is impinging on the turf (real or perceived) of his beloved A&M. He's just an intellectually dishonest poser. Not worth your time. Let him go back to Refineryville, his shift at the Olive Garden is about to start.
    I support the university in our city being referred to as Louisiana or UL. I am just pointing out facts which have nothing to do with my support of LSU. Unfortunately, on RP, if anyone suggests they support LSU it is automatically assumed they have ill will toward UL, which is not the case.

    Violation of the “spirit of the law” is a legal term used in court when someone is accused of manipulating a law in question. While I don’t think legal action would ever be brought against UL for using “Louisiana”, the term may be used by ULM & other state universities when attempting to convince the state legislature to close any alleged loopholes in the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frenchie35 View Post
    I thought you could un-troll all the unwelcome trolls on this board.....go ahead, you have my permission to do so...
    I often do buddy, but like that whack a mole game they keep popping up. LoL

  7. #157

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRanchMan View Post
    All of the above are the flagship universities of their respective systems. They are the oldest, largest & original university in their respective systems & these factors are synonymous with other universities that refer to themselves as university of “state”. Also, none of the above have legal restrictions with the use of their name. Regardless of how UL wants to “brand” themselves, the use of “Louisiana” is a violation of the spirit of the law in question.

    The UL administration takes a lot of heat for not promoting the name & allowing the national media to use UL-Lafayette or ULL. The administration knows they are walking a fine line using “Louisiana” & is reluctant promote said name. In addition, the administration fears ULM will change their name again or ask the state legislature to close all loopholes in the law, which is more likely.

    This is a long shot, but UL should team up with LSU & LTU and attempt to convert most, if not all, of the other four year universities in the state into junior colleges. We are too small of a state to have this many four year universities. UL, LSU & LTU would all benefit as would higher education in the state. However, we know that politics would get into the way of progress & is unlikely to ever happen.
    There is no law anywhere in the Country against a non flagship University using the state name as a acronym for Athletic teams. The Administration at LSU does not care that we use "Louisiana" as a Athletics brand. ULM and its President, who back stabs us every chance he gets, is the culprit.....in spite of the fact that they tried the same thing in the early 2000's.

  8. #158

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRanchMan View Post
    I support the university in our city being referred to as Louisiana or UL. I am just pointing out facts which have nothing to do with my support of LSU. Unfortunately, on RP, if anyone suggests they support LSU it is automatically assumed they have ill will toward UL, which is not the case.

    Violation of the “spirit of the law” is a legal term used in court when someone is accused of manipulating a law in question. While I don’t think legal action would ever be brought against UL for using “Louisiana”, the term may be used by ULM & other state universities when attempting to convince the state legislature to close any alleged loopholes in the law.
    "You're so vain, you probably think this song is about you ..."

  9. #159

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRanchMan View Post
    I support the university in our city being referred to as Louisiana or UL. I am just pointing out facts which have nothing to do with my support of LSU. Unfortunately, on RP, if anyone suggests they support LSU it is automatically assumed they have ill will toward UL, which is not the case.

    Violation of the “spirit of the law” is a legal term used in court when someone is accused of manipulating a law in question. While I don’t think legal action would ever be brought against UL for using “Louisiana”, the term may be used by ULM & other state universities when attempting to convince the state legislature to close any alleged loopholes in the law.
    Those Universities have lost around 50% of their state funding over the last several years and this is what they want to fight over....smart

  10. #160

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRanchMan View Post
    All of the above are the flagship universities of their respective systems. They are the oldest, largest & original university in their respective systems & these factors are synonymous with other universities that refer to themselves as university of "state". Also, none of the above have legal restrictions with the use of their name. Regardless of how UL wants to "brand" themselves, the use of "Louisiana" is a violation of the spirit of the law in question.

    The UL administration takes a lot of heat for not promoting the name & allowing the national media to use UL-Lafayette or ULL. The administration knows they are walking a fine line using "Louisiana" & is reluctant to promote said name. In addition, the administration fears ULM will change their name again or ask the state legislature to close all loopholes in the law, which is more likely.

    This is a long shot, but UL should team up with LSU & LTU and attempt to convert most, if not all, of the other four year universities in the state into junior colleges. We are too small of a state to have this many four year universities. UL, LSU & LTU would all benefit as would higher education in the state. However, we know that politics would get into the way of progress & is unlikely to ever happen.
    I think Texas actually has five flagship universities. They don't seem to feel the need to legislate academic achievement success or athletic naming for that matter. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening in Louisiana any time soon.

    As to reducing four year universities, I totally agree.

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