UL/Louisiana Branding

[basinbear]

http://www.utexas.edu/trademarks/protected-marks

See that little trademark after "Texas"? There's a law protecting that.

Contextual use numb nuts.....Trademarks mean nothing without it...

BY the way...there is A&M Apparel sold with "Texas Aggies" printed on it...

[justafan83]

Contextual use numb nuts.....Trademarks mean nothing without it...

BY the way...there is A&M Apparel sold with "Texas Aggies" printed on it...

Contextual use would apply to describing the university or any university in say, an athletic event, numbnuts.

[DaddyCajun]

Seems like I was referring to LSU fans in the LAFAYETTE area. I am sure there are LSU fans outside of Acadiana who see UL baseball & softball as a threat and thrive on their shortcomings. I have season tickets for UL football, basketball & LSU football. I have customers I offer the tickets to that will not attend a UL sporting event because of the number of LSU haters that attend such events. Regardless, in the Lafayette area, most people do support both schools, although the further away you get from the city of Lafayette, so does loyalty to UL.

True to most of what you are saying, but a few things I would like to add, 1) Many people I know will NOT go to a LSU sporting event because of the just plain Haters at LSU(i am talking my friens wives called Bi#ch@$, beer poured on in games, spit on walking up ramps, etc), I think more than just baseball and softball fans of LSU are starting to take notice of whats going on at UL, ALL their sports are feeling some sort of a threat some way more than others, 2) What do you mean by support(pull for them while watching on TV, buy a T-shirt at Walmart, or buy season tickets,etc)? and last 3) If LSU and other state school are so NOT threatened by UL or Louisiana as our sports teams go by WHY do you think they have such a problem with this NAME issue? Only 2 states dont have official State and University of, schools! Louisiana is one of them. Tulane used to be UL and did away with in NOT wanting it, So USL got it legally, and then was promptly sued by LSU, McNeese and NLU, if the name will not do anything for us then WHY all the bickering, I say they are Scared, period!

[CharlieK]

http://www.ulsystem.net/assets/docs/...e_policies.pdf

This is the last thing I'm posting about this and the link is a little off my main point anyway, but it does outline the state legislature for the university of louisiana system regarding names. No, I don't believe anyone should sit back and wait for a change that the university wants. But there are proper ways outlined to actually change the name. Obviously, we don't have the respect or ability or whatever it takes at this time to get it done or it would be done by now. All I'm saying is getting mad and vilifying someone for using the actual name is pointless and just makes the person look like a jerk. Take it however you want.

6 more posts since your "last" post on this topic. You are being manhandled by people who know much more about this topic and have been living this struggle for a long time. I'm sure you will have some smartass condescending reply to this, but just know it only makes you look worse.

[CajunSaint]

6 more posts since your "last" post on this topic. You are being manhandled by people who know much more about this topic and have been living this struggle for a long time. I'm sure you will have some smartass condescending reply to this, but just know it only makes you look worse.

prime example of what "not caring" about us looks like from LA A&M troll. we are LOUISIANA!

[Turbine]

http://www.utexas.edu/trademarks/protected-marks

See that little trademark after "Texas"? There's a law protecting that.

That "law protecting that" is not a Texas law, the law that protects trademarks does not care about Texas any more than it cares about Uber.

Texas (the U) acquired a contextual trademark through their own due diligence, not through some dedicated state law.

[Turbine]

Contextual use would apply to describing the university or any university in say, an athletic event.

Which is why using "Louisiana" is acceptable.

Contextually speaking.

[Just1More]

You sound like one tough bad-ss. I'm sorry you still can't understand my posts. You, my friend, are a moron.

I have no worries about going up against you intellectually. I'm tired of your simple-minded approach to this subject. If you could have kept your message to a direct post stating that some (a very minor few) go overboard when our preferred nickname(s) are not used by "outsiders"... you would have been correct... and nothing further need be stated.

You've meandered from that very simple (who gives a ____) comment... to questioning both our right to chosen nicknames... all the way to questioning if we shouldn't button up the entire nickname use until such time "we win more athletic contests" and then go seek to change our legal name.

We've had this debate 50,000 times. We don't need simple-mined, johnny come lately, sessions on legal names versus nicknames. You continue to blather on and on about "legal names"... when you've been told repeatedly that we full well understand our "legal naming requirements"... and that we are discussing the use of the preferred "nicknames".

Instead of being inquisitive on a subject that you just seem to have woke up and decided to chime in on... you've attempted to argue... argue that we are not "allowed" to use a nickname. You imply, ignorantly, that every nickname that ever came about was something that some legislative group got together and agreed to. Well, if that is part of your argument for this line of logic you're providing... you are the big moron in the room.

You may not like that we have a name issue. Sorry about that. But, this has been going on for many decades... not just the moment in time that a law was established to direct the university in a specific legal naming convention. Due to the mechanisms that led to that legislative action, and the lawsuit that followed... is precisely WHY the nickname is a big issue to us. It's a "nickname". It is the equivalent of you having a name on your birth certificate that you either cut short or altogether used a different name. You cannot be told that you cannot use a "nickname". We use the nickname and we ask media to use it. We argue with the media about why they care about using a "legal name" versus a "nickname"... when in fact they use other program nicknames all of the time.

The absolute only argument... that is valid... that you... in your BS posts haven't even touched on... is whether other entities "like" our nickname. Media isn't resolving our "right to a nickname". In all cases where media refuse to use our nickname, they're not doing so due to a legal requirement. They are doing so due to the objections of others. So, in all of your ramblings on this subject... THAT is the only argument to make. And it is purely subjective. There is no legal guide to nicknames.

This entire BS topic aggravates the balance of solid fans on this forum. We, 98% of us, know what we're going to do. And you apparently are on board with the 2%... or you aren't really one of us to begin with. If you are a UL fan, then you need to get in a good solid group of 20 of us... in a face to face situation... and if you don't come away understanding the reasons behind the naming... you are either not a fan... or not intelligent or passionate enough to do anything but watch from the sidelines.

[CajunDreDog]

I still to this day believe, that all UL 1st semester students should be required to take a 1 hour class to teach them this history of our name debate. MOST don't know about it, don't understand it, and still use ULL.

[Duggie35]

We are not Nebraska, nor are we Texas.

You are absolutely correct, we are not Nebraska or Texas, we are LOUISIANA! You are a genius!!

[ULGrad@HOU]

You nailed it J1M on your post ^
I'm thinking he's a feaux fan.

[CrazyCajun]

You are absolutely correct, we are not Nebraska or Texas, we are LOUISIANA! You are a genius!!

Like you have to have a certain budget or athletic history before you deserved to be called what you request.