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[ATXCajun]

They must have thought this was a midweek game?

That's how history will record it...and they probably won't play Houston in the regular season until it's about the kids again.

[alum81]

That's how history will record it...and they probably won't play Houston in the regular season until it's about the kids again.

Yaeh, when you start winning at Alex Box you get banned. That was a major turning point for me in my feelings about the school to the east. Like a wakeup call, ohhhh that's how they are.

[CajunEXPRESS]

Houston has a pitcher who pitched over 90 pitches Friday and over 90 tonight.

Robe would never do that to a pitcher.

Oregon State had a pitcher come in the 7th who pitched 107 pitches Friday. No doubt Robe would not do that either.

[cajunhawk]

I think it's time for everyone to toss this idea of pitch counts out the window. The number of Tommy John surgeries in the Majors, Minors, College, and High School Ball are not decreasing since everyone is on strict pitch counts. In fact...they are increasing at an alarming rate. Could pitch counts be weakening muscles needed to pitch? I'm not a physical therapist, orthopedic surgeon, or even a doctor at all...but it seems to me if pitch counts are not curbing the occurrence of Tommy John surgeries...then it's not effective. I could be way off.

This kid threw 200 pitches in a span of 4 days...he wasn't showing any signs of distress or loss of control...or loss of velocity. Instead of putting an arbitrary number up and acting like someone is being tortured...maybe someone should ask the kid how his arm feels.

[CajunAmos]

I think it's time for everyone to toss this idea of pitch counts out the window. The number of Tommy John surgeries in the Majors, Minors, College, and High School Ball are not decreasing since everyone is on strict pitch counts. In fact...they are increasing at an alarming rate. Could pitch counts be weakening muscles needed to pitch? I'm not a physical therapist, orthopedic surgeon, or even a doctor at all...but it seems to me if pitch counts are not curbing the occurrence of Tommy John surgeries...then it's not effective. I could be way off.

This kid threw 200 pitches in a span of 4 days...he wasn't showing any signs of distress or loss of control...or loss of velocity. Instead of putting an arbitrary number up and acting like someone is being tortured...maybe someone should ask the kid how his arm feels.

I think it depends on what type of pitcher you are and what type of training you went through. If you're not a high velocity guy, I would think you could pitch a good bit more. As to the training, the Japanese regularly throw high numbers of pitches. They also don't do any weight work, instead doing stretching and other types of strengthening work. I remember Robe saying when we played a Japanese team in the past that he offered them the use of the weight room and they respectively said no thanks.