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    Zeebart21's Avatar Zeebart21 is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFun View Post
    _ I'd like to know what's going on. One of the things we've heard-- and that doesn't make it true-- is that local coaches with marginal players call us, and expect us to take them because they're local.

    But if they have a stud, they discourage them from coming here.

    If that's true, they want us to support the local players, but they don't support the local school.

    Again, that's what we've heard. I'd love to know the true story here. _

    I heard the same thing, Fungus

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    BB has produced a good bit of 3 and 4 star guys that go to LSU obviously. Last year however, we had 3 or 4 guys recruited but didn't end up anywhere.
    My first cousin was told he had a spot on the team without scholarship (since he has tops) but was then told by the wr coach twice that he didn't have a spot. Kinda leaves a bad taste in some of our familys mouths. Still, coach mowad was at the game Saturday and coach kirkpatrick (off coord) played at UL. The cajuns need to look at some of bbhs's defensive players seeing as we have the 2nd best scoring defense in all classifications

    igeaux.mobi


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    If we are getting blackballed by local coaches, then contact the parents. Invite them to see the facilities, bring them to a game, set them up to tailgate, if the coaches want to play games with 18 year old kids futures, then shame on them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wcd35 View Post
    _ BB has produced a good bit of 3 and 4 star guys that go to LSU obviously. Last year however, we had 3 or d guys recruited but didn't end up anywhere. My first cousin was told he had a spot on the team without scholarship (since he has tops) but was then told by the wr coach twice that he didn't have a spot. Kinda leaves a bad taste in some of our familys mouths. Still, coach mowad was at the game Saturday and coach kirkpatrick (off coord)played at UL

    igeaux.mobi _
    Your right, guys that are high profile athletes haven't considered UL in the past. I know several quality kids from last season, Drouselle and Alexander didn't have the grades. Drouselle was given the same opportunity as Adrian Breaux from Northside was given. He chose to go with ULM, now he has contacted UL about coming back to the area. Alexander will not likely make it out of JC, good athlete. Calais is a good kid, but had a poor transcript.

    Those were the two that the Cajuns liked, no other on Breaux Bridge's squad last season even had looks from Div1A programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srevere51 View Post
    _ I have a friend of mine whose father is a coach at a High School in Lafayette, when I asked her why is it that local kids dont get a lot of attention from UL. She told me that her Father had made multipule contacts to UL to try to get them to look at some of the kids in this high school program. He said that UL never really showed any interest nor sent anyone out to watch them. I don't know now true this is, but it did come out of her mouth and she is a big football fan.

    Rev _
    Unfortunately, some HS coaches do wear their feelings on their sleeves sometimes...and if they have a player that they think deserves a look, they hold grudges if it does not happen... The HS coach is not doing his players any favors by copping an attitude and being hard to work with, regardless.

    On the other hand, why would local players not go to a camp and show their stuff if they are interested in UL and capable players, or pick up the phone and call the staff themselves? It's not a coach's job to get recruiters to show up, player's do that.

    The HS coach plays a huge roll by filling out stuff that school's send in and following up on requests for film and transcripts, but players need to pick up a phone and call every school they are interested in playing for, if they are capable players. They can attend camps, come to games, email coaches, call coaches, call the athletic dept even... If a kid shows up for a game for an unofficial and passes the "look test", I'll bet my hat that this staff will be stopping by...

    These guys are an extremely resourceful bunch of raccoons IMO...

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    You are right t about those guys. However, my cousin was the qb and was recruited by fouq and the wr coach to play a role like falgout. They said they were looking for a smart player and looked at a few qbs to play other roles since they are smarter typically. He wasn't recruited for a scholly by d1 but lower classes offered however he chose UL since he was promised preferred walkon status. Then had that taken away twice. He is still a fan UL tho.

    Again cajuns need to go after some of our d players. The 3 d linemen are solid with churphy steward likely to be 4 star next year.
    Like you said, these guys need the grades first

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    Your right, guys that are high profile athletes haven't considered UL in the past. I know several quality kids from last season, Drouselle and Alexander didn't have the grades. Drouselle was given the same opportunity as Adrian Breaux from Northside was given. He chose to go with ULM, now he has contacted UL about coming back to the area. Alexander will not likely make it out of JC, good athlete. Calais is a good kid, but had a poor transcript.

    Those were the two that the Cajuns liked, no other on Breaux Bridge's squad last season even had looks from Div1A programs.
    igeaux.mobi

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    Quote Originally Posted by drumroll View Post
    _ Unfortunately, some HS coaches do wear their feelings on their sleeves sometimes...and if they have a player that they think deserves a look, they hold grudges if it does not happen... The HS coach is not doing his players any favors by copping an attitude and being hard to work with, regardless.

    On the other hand, why would local players not go to a camp and show their stuff if they are interested in UL and capable players, or pick up the phone and call the staff themselves? It's not a coach's job to get recruiters to show up, player's do that.

    The HS coach plays a huge roll by filling out stuff that school's send in and following up on requests for film and transcripts, but players need to pick up a phone and call every school they are interested in playing for, if they are capable players. They can attend camps, come to games, email coaches, call coaches, call the athletic dept even... If a kid shows up for a game for an unofficial and passes the "look test", I'll bet my hat that this staff will be stopping by...

    These guys are an extremely resourceful bunch of raccoons IMO... _
    Bingo! Kaplan High had a large number of athletes at FIU game.

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    I don't think we have it ---But we need about 3-4 guys in each recruiting area to run the errands for the recruiting area coaches---Meet with them when they come to the area and try to get some info on the players that we are interested in visiting---Need to take the coaches out to eat and introduce them to Ul folkes in the area!!! I think that the rules have changed but when the coaches would fly out on Thursday or drive to local areas we would have alumni to pick us up and help with info!!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by wcd35 View Post
    _ You are right t about those guys. However, my cousin was the qb and was recruited by fouq and the wr coach to play a role like falgout. They said they were looking for a smart player and looked at a few qbs to play other roles since they are smarter typically. He wasn't recruited for a scholly by d1 but lower classes offered however he chose UL since he was promised preferred walkon status. Then had that taken away twice. He is still a fan UL tho.

    Again cajuns need to go after some of our d players. The 3 d linemen are solid with churphy steward likely to be 4 star next year.
    Like you said, these guys need the grades first



    igeaux.mobi _
    I don't know about the private conversations coaches have with some of these kids, so I can't defend such promises. Steward is a kid that will draw a lot of attention at summer camps next season. I hope the guidance counselor does a better job with him, then they have in the past.

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    Same here. That's always been a huge disappointment with not only BB, but plenty in the area. A lot of it is just the kids not knowing what they need, then its too late. That's one thing that if I ever decided to teach (engineer right now) I would love to work with the coaches and players around the area to help these kids make it. Quite a few are good kids that just don't get the help


    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    I don't know about the private conversations coaches have with some of these kids, so I can't defend such promises. Steward is a kid that will draw a lot of attention at summer camps next season. I hope the guidance counselor does a better job with him, then they have in the past.
    igeaux.mobi

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    Quote Originally Posted by wcd35 View Post
    _ Same here. That's always been a huge disappointment with not only BB, but plenty in the area. A lot of it is just the kids not knowing what they need, then its too late. That's one thing that if I ever decided to teach (engineer right now) I would love to work with the coaches and players around the area to help these kids make it. Quite a few are good kids that just don't get the help




    igeaux.mobi _
    Not commenting on your family member because I don't know him or even have any idea who he is, but in regard to the academic failings of many of the local kids it sure was sad last spring when the Advertiser in cooperation with the UL staff tried to hold some academic informational sessions so the local players and parents could understand why they need to emphasize academics as much as athletics if they want to play D1A ball and very few people attended (search Daily Advertiser archives for the stories). A second session was held and I don't believe attendence was any better. However, a few months later a "combine" type minicamp was held and kids came out of the woodwork.

    As far aas the local coaches are concerned, the UL coaches will admit that they feel the cold shoulder from some of the local caoches. The UL staff recently recounted at the QB Club some of the coaching clinics, informal roundtables and other efforts at outreach to the local coaches and yet when it comes to steering players to UL some of the coaches steer their studs away from UL but then get miffed if UL will not take their leftovers. And yes, connections to Brokeback U seem to be an all too common thread with these coaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer58 View Post
    _ Not commenting on your family member because I don't know him or even have any idea who he is, but in regard to the academic failings of many of the local kids it sure was sad last spring when the Advertiser in cooperation with the UL staff tried to hold some academic informational sessions so the local players and parents could understand why they need to emphasize academics as much as athletics if they want to play D1A ball and very few people attended (search Daily Advertiser archives for the stories). A second session was held and I don't believe attendence was any better. However, a few months later a "combine" type minicamp was held and kids came out of the woodwork.
    Just in case you guys are not aware of the huge potential landslide into the great academic abyss recruits currently face, let me help clarify...

    4 years ago you had to make decent scores on 12 core credits to gain your NCAA clearance to play DI Football...

    Many players failed to do so, due to lack of effort, focus, guidance, parenting, mentoring, proper home environment, etc...

    As often is the case, the NCAA in it's less than infinite wisdom decided to lift one corner of the playing field and give the turf a substantial tug...

    As of 2008, 16 core credits are required, a goal that is much more challenging...

    As stated by one academic coordinator for a major DI program, they went back and ran the transcripts for their current senior class and determined that 63% of them would not have been elidgible to play DI football under the current guidelines, all of which were successful in the classroom, on track to earn their degree, and scheduled to graduate last year...

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