Louisiana Baseball Sets School Record With 50th Win

[GoneGolfin]

Slider… if that was a 2 seam fastball the fingers would be slightly more spread...

Some pitchers throw their two-seam with the index and middle fingers together. Some also hold it perpendicular to the narrowest part of the seams … either with the fingers split … or together. I threw the 2-seam with a split finger grip perpendicular to the narrowest part of the seams … with the ball seated a little deeper into my hand than the 4-seam … and a little firmer pressure.

Brian

[campo118]

I agree there are variations of multiple different pitches… I.E. Circle change, vulcan change, straight change, 3 finger, and palm ball are all variations of a change up, and 4 seam, 2 seam, cutter, sinker, split finger and fork balls are all variations of a fastball… but by definition a 2 seam fastball is gripped with the index finger and middle finger grip the seams closest together where the horseshoe points in towards each other… what you just described "Some pitchers throw their two-seam with the index and middle fingers together" is a cutter…. "I threw the 2-seam with a split finger grip perpendicular to the narrowest part of the seams … with the ball seated a little deeper into my hand than the 4-seam" sounds like a mix somewhere between a splitter and a sinker…

[GoneGolfin]

I agree there are variations of multiple different pitches… I.E. Circle change, vulcan change, straight change, 3 finger, and palm ball are all variations of a change up, and 4 seam, 2 seam, cutter, sinker, split finger and fork balls are all variations of a fastball… but by definition a 2 seam fastball is gripped with the index finger and middle finger grip the seams closest together where the horseshoe points in towards each other… what you just described "Some pitchers throw their two-seam with the index and middle fingers together" is a cutter…. "I threw the 2-seam with a split finger grip perpendicular to the narrowest part of the seams … with the ball seated a little deeper into my hand than the 4-seam" sounds like a mix somewhere between a splitter and a sinker…

I agree with a lot of what you have to say here. However, I wanted to emphasize again that gripping the ball across the two closest seams (perpendicular to the seams) is in fact a 2-seam fastball … just as gripping it parallel to "the road" (parallel to the seams) is a 2-seamer. This is because with both grips, you have two seams rotating as the ball moves towards the plate.

Also, with respect to the fingers being split … or not … yes, some refer to the pitch as being a cutter. But it is still a 2-seam fastball. The following Mike Scott video illustrates the two different grips (parallel/perpendicular) as well as the placement of the fingers (split or not) … all as being two-seam fastballs.

Brian

[Turbine]

I'm not qualified to take a swing at this, I'm just curious how many of you struck out?

[jllanclos]

Nola's getting hammered. Go ahead and send them here. LOL

[campo118]

I'm not qualified to take a swing at this, I'm just curious how many of you struck out?

Way more than I'd like to admit… Good thing I also pitched to even out the K's a little bit

[CajunJack55]

I agree there are variations of multiple different pitches… I.E. Circle change, vulcan change, straight change, 3 finger, and palm ball are all variations of a change up, and 4 seam, 2 seam, cutter, sinker, split finger and fork balls are all variations of a fastball… but by definition a 2 seam fastball is gripped with the index finger and middle finger grip the seams closest together where the horseshoe points in towards each other… what you just described "Some pitchers throw their two-seam with the index and middle fingers together" is a cutter…. "I threw the 2-seam with a split finger grip perpendicular to the narrowest part of the seams … with the ball seated a little deeper into my hand than the 4-seam" sounds like a mix somewhere between a splitter and a sinker…

Ever throw a screw ball? I had a teamate in high school that I caught for who threw a nasty screwball he was only about 5'6'' but throw in the high 80's. He gripped it very similar to his two seamer but flicked his wrist out to give the ball crazy movement. I tried like crazy to learn it but could never make it move like him.

[campo118]

Probably one of the toughest pitches to throw without hurting yourself… To answer your question, yes I have experimented with a screwball, but never was able to control it or have any command of it much less get any real bite/break on it, therefore never threw it in games…

[GoneGolfin]

Some may remember Skip Madden … transferred from Northwestern State and played for the Cajuns in '93. He had a nice screwball. However, he did have arm problems.

Brian

[CajunJack55]

Some may remember Skip Madden … transferred from Northwestern State and played for the Cajuns in '93. He had a nice screwball. However, he did have arm problems.

Brian

Have not talked to my old teamate in a years. He pitched a little at Southern and LSU-E but I'm not sure if arm problems were the case of him giving it up.

[Hammer58]

Btw, back to the original topic, don't look for an opponents take on this story. The rag that is the News Star did not even report on this game. Their current Hoax baseball story up on their website is the Hoax beating the Goathumpers to stay alive in the Tourney. I guess they figure if they don't report on losses to UL they can continue to claim "Almost" status.

[MelRock]

I guess they figure if they don't report on losses to UL they can continue to claim "Almost" status.

It's not on the internet so it must not be true, bonjour.