Slider… if that was a 2 seam fastball the fingers would be slightly more spread...
That's what I was about to say, when I would throw my 2-seem fastball my fingers would not be touching. But man that's the beauty of baseball and pitching.... and why so many pitchers throw the same pitches completely different from one another. Everybody has their own way of tweaking their grip on certain pitches.
Some pitchers throw their two-seam with the index and middle fingers together. Some also hold it perpendicular to the narrowest part of the seams … either with the fingers split … or together. I threw the 2-seam with a split finger grip perpendicular to the narrowest part of the seams … with the ball seated a little deeper into my hand than the 4-seam … and a little firmer pressure.
Brian
I agree there are variations of multiple different pitches… I.E. Circle change, vulcan change, straight change, 3 finger, and palm ball are all variations of a change up, and 4 seam, 2 seam, cutter, sinker, split finger and fork balls are all variations of a fastball… but by definition a 2 seam fastball is gripped with the index finger and middle finger grip the seams closest together where the horseshoe points in towards each other… what you just described "Some pitchers throw their two-seam with the index and middle fingers together" is a cutter…. "I threw the 2-seam with a split finger grip perpendicular to the narrowest part of the seams … with the ball seated a little deeper into my hand than the 4-seam" sounds like a mix somewhere between a splitter and a sinker…
I agree with a lot of what you have to say here. However, I wanted to emphasize again that gripping the ball across the two closest seams (perpendicular to the seams) is in fact a 2-seam fastball … just as gripping it parallel to "the road" (parallel to the seams) is a 2-seamer. This is because with both grips, you have two seams rotating as the ball moves towards the plate.
Also, with respect to the fingers being split … or not … yes, some refer to the pitch as being a cutter. But it is still a 2-seam fastball. The following Mike Scott video illustrates the two different grips (parallel/perpendicular) as well as the placement of the fingers (split or not) … all as being two-seam fastballs.
Brian
I'm not qualified to take a swing at this, I'm just curious how many of you struck out?
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Nola's getting hammered. Go ahead and send them here. LOL
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