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    Defense was very good last year and will be better thus year. Receivers are old and slow. When I saw they traded up it was either cooks or dennard. Either would have been a good pick.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    Defensive needs > Offensive needs

    That's my take on it.
    Dennard was the pick. No pick is full proof, but that guy was as close as it gets to a sure thing. Remember I said this.
    I was equally on board with Dennard when we traded up. I think corner is a more immediate need, but with our safety tandem and defensive line, plus the possible availability of equally talented guys like Pierre Desir and Stanley Jean-Baptiste in the 2nd, they may just have decided to let it ride with Keenan Lewis and Champ Bailey knowing we'll get after the QB and have support on the back end for them. We have starters at WR, but Colston isn't getting younger, Toon is a total unknown 3 years in (not a promising sign), and we don't know how Joe Morgan is coming back from knee injuries. WR was a need, make no mistake.

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    So we're counting on Lewis, a perineal #2 corner (who admittedly had a career standout year), and a 56 year old has been that's coming off injury?

    I understand WR is a need, but c'mon guys, they found Lance Moore in a pile of throw always. Still have corner stones in Stills and Colston. (What's Colston, 30? Middle of his prime) As was said earlier, we find UDFAs better than anyone. Dennard is an elite defensive talent.

    Cooks is a fine player. We just didn't need to trade up for him, and I feel like cornerback was the immediate need.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunIke View Post
    Ray Lewis commentary = epic failure
    I thought the whole panel was an abortion. Wtf is up with Kiper / Gruden dynamic? Boomer looked like he wanted to get the hell out of there.

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    I learned a long time ago not to question too hard what Sean Payton & Mickey Loomis do in the draft. They usually have a ggod reason for it. Now the rest of the league W/ exception of Green Bay, Pittsburgh, & the teams picking after the Saints, deserve to have their @$$es kicked. They turned their noses up at the best biggest impact player coming out of college because they had no guts. If fortune belongs to the bold, then the Houston Texans deserve to be pennyless. They will not win a super bowl for a hundred years.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandwagon King View Post
    I learned a long time ago not to question too hard what Sean Payton & Mickey Loomis do in the draft. They usually have a ggod reason for it. Now the rest of the league W/ exception of Green Bay, Pittsburgh, & the teams picking after the Saints, deserve to have their @$$es kicked. They turned their noses up at the best biggest impact player coming out of college because they had no guts. If fortune belongs to the bold, then the Houston Texans deserve to be pennyless. They will not win a super bowl for a hundred years.
    For what, being smart? They're going to end up with the best player in the draft and the best quarterback in the draft..

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    You have another day of the draft to handle another CB. You have three proven safety's (adding what most think is the #2 safety in the league) which Rob Ryan used with great effect last year. They were the #4 defense in the NFL last year. They are getting back Patrick Robinson from injury, and White has gained experience getting playing time last year. I don't think you get the opportunity to get 4.3 guys with skill and a desire to get better every day.

    http://grantland.com/features/brandi...wide-receiver/

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jet...pe-for-success


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunAmos View Post
    You have another day of the draft to handle another CB. You have three proven safety's (adding what most think is the #2 safety in the league) which Rob Ryan used with great effect last year. They were the #4 defense in the NFL last year. They are getting back Patrick Robinson from injury, and White has gained experience getting playing time last year. I don't think you get the opportunity to get 4.3 guys with skill and a desire to get better every day.

    http://grantland.com/features/brandi...wide-receiver/

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jet...pe-for-success
    I'm not arguing for the sake of it, so please don't think I'm just pestering you. But the fact is, most kids say and do the right things. I don't care about that. Speed is great, but lots of speedy guys have made ZERO impact in the league. You haven't really talked yourself into Pat Robinson, have you? That guy has done nothing in black & gold. And Corey White? He's improved, but no matter what, he is the weak link on the field whenever he's out there.

    What game was it last year that Greer had to leave and White got embarrassed? Patriots I think.

    After the first round cover guys, there is a huge drop off. I'd actually argue Roby from OSU is a 2nd round talent. No where near Gilbert, Verret and Dennard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    I'm not arguing for the sake of it, so please don't think I'm just pestering you. But the fact is, most kids say and do the right things. I don't care about that. Speed is great, but lots of speedy guys have made ZERO impact in the league. You haven't really talked yourself into Pat Robinson, have you? That guy has done nothing in black & gold. And Corey White? He's improved, but no matter what, he is the weak link on the field whenever he's out there.

    What game was it last year that Greer had to leave and White got embarrassed? Patriots I think.

    After the first round cover guys, there is a huge drop off. I'd actually argue Roby from OSU is a 2nd round talent. No where near Gilbert, Verret and Dennard.
    Did you read the links?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    You never trade up to get a WR, especially late in the 1st.
    Two teams traded up for WR's in the first round this year (Buff & NO)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    For what, being smart? They're going to end up with the best player in the draft and the best quarterback in the draft..
    Not sure where your credientials are from, but I noticed immediately after the clown went to the Texans the tackles from Auburn & A & M were picked. Maybe it's because the clown did zero against them when he played their teams. Just because you blew a guy up in a game two years ago & were the top rated 5 star rivals recruit going into college 4 years ago, doesn't make you the best player in college. Johnny Manziel was the biggest impact player coming out of college, and was an absolute must have no brainer for the Texans to turn their team around right now. Therefore, it inevitable that the miserable organization they were. They had to prove what morons they were & draft a guy who won't make them one game better next season. This team was a good QB & a real head coach away from going to the Superbowl last season & ended up with the worst record in the league. That was no accident. They are rediculously ignorant & are quickly becoming as irrelevant in Houston as the Astros are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandwagon King View Post
    Not sure where your credientials are from, but I noticed immediately after the clown went to the Texans the tackles from Auburn & A & M were picked. Maybe it's because the clown did zero against them when he played their teams. Just because you blew a guy up in a game two years ago & were the top rated 5 star rivals recruit going into college 4 years ago, doesn't make you the best player in college. Johnny Manziel was the biggest impact player coming out of college, and was an absolute must have no brainer for the Texans to turn their team around right now. Therefore, it inevitable that the miserable organization they were. They had to prove what morons they were & draft a guy who won't make them one game better next season. This team was a good QB & a real head coach away from going to the Superbowl last season & ended up with the worst record in the league. That was no accident. They are rediculously ignorant & are quickly becoming as irrelevant in Houston as the Astros are.
    I think Jordan Jefferson is available, they should go sign him.

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