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    You have another day of the draft to handle another CB. You have three proven safety's (adding what most think is the #2 safety in the league) which Rob Ryan used with great effect last year. They were the #4 defense in the NFL last year. They are getting back Patrick Robinson from injury, and White has gained experience getting playing time last year. I don't think you get the opportunity to get 4.3 guys with skill and a desire to get better every day.

    http://grantland.com/features/brandi...wide-receiver/

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jet...pe-for-success


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunAmos View Post
    You have another day of the draft to handle another CB. You have three proven safety's (adding what most think is the #2 safety in the league) which Rob Ryan used with great effect last year. They were the #4 defense in the NFL last year. They are getting back Patrick Robinson from injury, and White has gained experience getting playing time last year. I don't think you get the opportunity to get 4.3 guys with skill and a desire to get better every day.

    http://grantland.com/features/brandi...wide-receiver/

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/jet...pe-for-success
    I'm not arguing for the sake of it, so please don't think I'm just pestering you. But the fact is, most kids say and do the right things. I don't care about that. Speed is great, but lots of speedy guys have made ZERO impact in the league. You haven't really talked yourself into Pat Robinson, have you? That guy has done nothing in black & gold. And Corey White? He's improved, but no matter what, he is the weak link on the field whenever he's out there.

    What game was it last year that Greer had to leave and White got embarrassed? Patriots I think.

    After the first round cover guys, there is a huge drop off. I'd actually argue Roby from OSU is a 2nd round talent. No where near Gilbert, Verret and Dennard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    I'm not arguing for the sake of it, so please don't think I'm just pestering you. But the fact is, most kids say and do the right things. I don't care about that. Speed is great, but lots of speedy guys have made ZERO impact in the league. You haven't really talked yourself into Pat Robinson, have you? That guy has done nothing in black & gold. And Corey White? He's improved, but no matter what, he is the weak link on the field whenever he's out there.

    What game was it last year that Greer had to leave and White got embarrassed? Patriots I think.

    After the first round cover guys, there is a huge drop off. I'd actually argue Roby from OSU is a 2nd round talent. No where near Gilbert, Verret and Dennard.
    Did you read the links?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    You never trade up to get a WR, especially late in the 1st.
    Two teams traded up for WR's in the first round this year (Buff & NO)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    For what, being smart? They're going to end up with the best player in the draft and the best quarterback in the draft..
    Not sure where your credientials are from, but I noticed immediately after the clown went to the Texans the tackles from Auburn & A & M were picked. Maybe it's because the clown did zero against them when he played their teams. Just because you blew a guy up in a game two years ago & were the top rated 5 star rivals recruit going into college 4 years ago, doesn't make you the best player in college. Johnny Manziel was the biggest impact player coming out of college, and was an absolute must have no brainer for the Texans to turn their team around right now. Therefore, it inevitable that the miserable organization they were. They had to prove what morons they were & draft a guy who won't make them one game better next season. This team was a good QB & a real head coach away from going to the Superbowl last season & ended up with the worst record in the league. That was no accident. They are rediculously ignorant & are quickly becoming as irrelevant in Houston as the Astros are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandwagon King View Post
    Not sure where your credientials are from, but I noticed immediately after the clown went to the Texans the tackles from Auburn & A & M were picked. Maybe it's because the clown did zero against them when he played their teams. Just because you blew a guy up in a game two years ago & were the top rated 5 star rivals recruit going into college 4 years ago, doesn't make you the best player in college. Johnny Manziel was the biggest impact player coming out of college, and was an absolute must have no brainer for the Texans to turn their team around right now. Therefore, it inevitable that the miserable organization they were. They had to prove what morons they were & draft a guy who won't make them one game better next season. This team was a good QB & a real head coach away from going to the Superbowl last season & ended up with the worst record in the league. That was no accident. They are rediculously ignorant & are quickly becoming as irrelevant in Houston as the Astros are.
    I think Jordan Jefferson is available, they should go sign him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duggie85 View Post
    Two teams traded up for WR's in the first round this year (Buff & NO)...
    One of those was a sure fire first rounder...that being Sammy Watkins. The other...was a slot receiver. Be wary of combine warriors...those guys who wouldn't have sniffed the first round without a good workout. Those are the ones who normally don't show up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandwagon King View Post
    Not sure where your credientials are from, but I noticed immediately after the clown went to the Texans the tackles from Auburn & A & M were picked. Maybe it's because the clown did zero against them when he played their teams. Just because you blew a guy up in a game two years ago & were the top rated 5 star rivals recruit going into college 4 years ago, doesn't make you the best player in college. Johnny Manziel was the biggest impact player coming out of college, and was an absolute must have no brainer for the Texans to turn their team around right now. Therefore, it inevitable that the miserable organization they were. They had to prove what morons they were & draft a guy who won't make them one game better next season. This team was a good QB & a real head coach away from going to the Superbowl last season & ended up with the worst record in the league. That was no accident. They are rediculously ignorant & are quickly becoming as irrelevant in Houston as the Astros are.
    I think they are trying to trade for Ryan Mallet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandwagon King View Post
    Not sure where your credientials are from, but I noticed immediately after the clown went to the Texans the tackles from Auburn & A & M were picked. Maybe it's because the clown did zero against them when he played their teams. Just because you blew a guy up in a game two years ago & were the top rated 5 star rivals recruit going into college 4 years ago, doesn't make you the best player in college. Johnny Manziel was the biggest impact player coming out of college, and was an absolute must have no brainer for the Texans to turn their team around right now. Therefore, it inevitable that the miserable organization they were. They had to prove what morons they were & draft a guy who won't make them one game better next season. This team was a good QB & a real head coach away from going to the Superbowl last season & ended up with the worst record in the league. That was no accident. They are rediculously ignorant & are quickly becoming as irrelevant in Houston as the Astros are.
    I'm not totally sold on Clowney either, but he was a physical freak and presented the catch 22: if you pass on him and he becomes a star, it's hard to explain passing on him. If you pick him and he is a bust, people will say "we knew it" but at least you can explain why he was picked. Best pure athlete in the draft.

    Johny Manziel was exciting to watch.. In college. He will not translate. All the smart guys know that. Bill O'Brien is a quarterback guru. That's why he passed on Manziel and took the gamble for Carr in the second. It's a risky but brilliant move. Houston front office nailed it. I'm surprised you see it that differently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManAboutTown View Post
    I'm not arguing for the sake of it, so please don't think I'm just pestering you. But the fact is, most kids say and do the right things. I don't care about that. Speed is great, but lots of speedy guys have made ZERO impact in the league. You haven't really talked yourself into Pat Robinson, have you? That guy has done nothing in black & gold. And Corey White? He's improved, but no matter what, he is the weak link on the field whenever he's out there.

    What game was it last year that Greer had to leave and White got embarrassed? Patriots I think.

    After the first round cover guys, there is a huge drop off. I'd actually argue Roby from OSU is a 2nd round talent. No where near Gilbert, Verret and Dennard.
    Let's look at former top 40 times at the combine...shall we?

    2013 Marquise Goodwin had the fastest 40 time...and did very little in his first year.
    2012 Josh Robinson had the fastest 40 time...hasn't done much since entering the league.
    2011 Demarcus Van Dyke had the fastest 40 time...who? Exactly.
    2010 Jacoby Ford had the fastest 40 time...he has been an OK wide receiver...but not great.
    2009 Darrius Heyward Bey had the fastest 40 time...hasn't done anything at the pro level.
    2008 Chris Johnson had the fastest 40 time...finally someone who has done...something.
    2007 Yamon Figurs had the fastest 40 time...again...who? Currently in the CFL. Nice.
    2006 Tye Hill had the fastest 40 time...journeyman who never did much.

    There you see that fastest 40 time mostly means you can run in a straight line...and fast. I'm sure this 5 foot 9 slot receiver will buck the trend.

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