But yet Chris Richard is listed as 185? He was listed coming in as 205. I thought by seeing him last year that he was closer to 205 than 185 but oh well. I still need to get there and see some of these guys to believe those weights. I hope they are truly accurate. I saw Grand Fleming not long ago and he didn't look 232 but I sure would like to see him there and I think he can play at that weight with his frame and lose nothing.