Warning: more name stuff

[HoustonCajun]

_ UL will never be an officially recognized title. The fact of the matter is LSU has been granted Flagship status and unfortunately, at some point in history, LSU's education system decided to move forth by going backwards. To my knowledge, every other state aside from Ohio attaches the University system as the flagship, and the State university system as the second tier.

Ohio is almost setup exactly like Louisiana in that regard. The Ohio State University is the state Flagship, is head of a single Board and is a BCS member of the Big 10. Yet, Ohio University also exists as a member of the MAC along with Kent State and Miami Ohio. The other university is Cincinnati which has now worked its way up to the Big East. Other private schools include Dayton and Case Western. Miami University in 1986 and Ohio State in 2001 were noted as "public ivy" institutions, the state/public equivalent of a private Ivy League institutions. Ohio University's journalism school ranks, with Columbia University's journalism school, as one of the nation's best. Ohio State and Ohio University certainly co-exist nicely along with other accomplished universities and there is no question which is both the Flagship and BCS program.

Why can't that exist in Louisiana? LSU is the Flagship and only BCS school in the SEC. UL, ULM and LA Tech exist in the SBC and WAC, much like the MAC. Tulane is in C-USA. There is absolutely no reason the University of Louisiana cannot exist in Louisiana without detracting from LSU's status as the 1st Tier school. Just ask The Ohio State University how that is working out for them. There is no reason for LSU to fight this.

Likewise, there is no identity problem with the names. In Texas, there is Texas, Texas A&M, Texas State, Texas Tech and UTEP, UTA, and UTSA. Am I leaving any out? Texas A&M constantly refers to itself as the Texas Aggies, dropping the A&M. Still no problem. There is no confusing, LSU, Louisiana, Louisiana Tech and ULM. Its too bad ULM doesn't go the Louisiana A&M route to solve the name issue. Then, we would be almost identical to Texas. No one confuses any of those schools.

[MakoMaker]

Trust me when I say that they couldn't care less about any difficulties we are having now in the athletic realm due to our name issue. _

I just have to roll my eyes at this. Total garbage.

As far as the being known 'nationally' as UL...won't happen. Ever. Louisville has it tied up and ESPN and the others wouldn't allow it to be an issue. We need to go back to USL and be done with it.

[CajunNation]

I just have to roll my eyes at this. Total garbage.

As far as the being known 'nationally' as UL...won't happen. Ever. Louisville has it tied up and ESPN and the others wouldn't allow it to be an issue. We need to go back to USL and be done with it.

Open your eyes, dude.

Louisville has it "tied up"? What the heck does that mean? I didn't know a school can claim ownersip of alphabets.

I have seen several channels use the letters USC when describing the Trojans and the Gamecocks.

I have seen ESPN use UT when referencing Texas, Tennessee, and Toledo... in the same season.

For someone who uses "we" when discussing the Cajuns, you sure think an awful lot like a tank topper.

[CajunSaint]

_ Ohio is almost setup exactly like Louisiana in that regard. The Ohio State University is the state Flagship, is head of a single Board and is a BCS member of the Big 10. Yet, Ohio University also exists as a member of the MAC along with Kent State and Miami Ohio. The other university is Cincinnati which has now worked its way up to the Big East. Other private schools include Dayton and Case Western. Miami University in 1986 and Ohio State in 2001 were noted as "public ivy" institutions, the state/public equivalent of a private Ivy League institutions. Ohio University's journalism school ranks, with Columbia University's journalism school, as one of the nation's best. Ohio State and Ohio University certainly co-exist nicely along with other accomplished universities and there is no question which is both the Flagship and BCS program.

Why can't that exist in Louisiana? LSU is the Flagship and only BCS school in the SEC. UL, ULM and LA Tech exist in the SBC and WAC, much like the MAC. Tulane is in C-USA. There is absolutely no reason the University of Louisiana cannot exist in Louisiana without detracting from LSU's status as the 1st Tier school. Just ask The Ohio State University how that is working out for them. There is no reason for LSU to fight this.

Likewise, there is no identity problem with the names. In Texas, there is Texas, Texas A&M, Texas State, Texas Tech and UTEP, UTA, and UTSA. Am I leaving any out? Texas A&M constantly refers to itself as the Texas Aggies, dropping the A&M. Still no problem. There is no confusing, LSU, Louisiana, Louisiana Tech and ULM. Its too bad ULM doesn't go the Louisiana A&M route to solve the name issue. Then, we would be almost identical to Texas. No one confuses any of those schools. _

it's interesting to note that the co-existence you mention in ohio has produced nationally recognized excellence in several of their institutions, ohio st., ohio, and even kent st. with its excellent humanities studies. this is a model of co-existence that works to benefit more than one university in their state. granted, the population difference plays some role in this because it affects funding through taxes, etc. their "flagship" actually leads an able-bodied fleet. ours, because of petty bickering and protectionism, doesn't lead by example as much as it bullies and intimidates to protect its position at the top- much to the detriment of the entire higher ed. system of our state.(not the only reason we have problems in that area: funding, too may 4 year univ., legislative interference, on and on.) your points on the situation in texas with the names is well-taken. geaux THE University of Louisiana. i think i'll have a bumper sticker made with that on it.

[ULtimateCajun]

_ it's interesting to note that the co-existence you mention in ohio has produced nationally recognized excellence in several of their institutions, ohio st., ohio, and even kent st. with its excellent humanities studies. this is a model of co-existence that works to benefit more than one university in their state. granted, the population difference plays some role in this because it affects funding through taxes, etc. their "flagship" actually leads an able-bodied fleet. ours, because of petty bickering and protectionism, doesn't lead by example as much as it bullies and intimidates to protect its position at the top- much to the detriment of the entire higher ed. system of our state.(not the only reason we have problems in that area: funding, too may 4 year univ., legislative interference, on and on.) your points on the situation in texas with the names is well-taken. geaux THE University of Louisiana. i think i'll have a bumper sticker made with that on it. _

Very good point. What is so wrong with Universities playing nice with each other? Instead of having one good school, why not have 2 or 3? It could only improve the state. I never understood this big brother little brother model that seems to be the norm in this state. What benefit is it to LSU for UL to not succeed?

[CajunRed]

_ I just have to roll my eyes at this. Total garbage.

As far as the being known 'nationally' as UL...won't happen. Ever. Louisville has it tied up and ESPN and the others wouldn't allow it to be an issue. We need to go back to USL and be done with it. _

Wow... spoken like a true fan.

[Turbine]

I just have to roll my eyes at this. Total garbage.

As far as the being known 'nationally' as UL...won't happen. Ever. Louisville has it tied up and ESPN and the others wouldn't allow it to be an issue. We need to go back to USL and be done with it.

Poor Louisville has the opposite problem.

They want to be known as U "of" L
igeaux.mobi

[cajun_tiger]

ugh! its sad that many of you will never realize no matter what the school name is UL will never be the flagship university, teir 1 school, or athletic power house. period. if you all put this much passion into the athletic program everyone in college sports would know who UL is. instead the athletics simply suck and your still known as UL-L

[ULtimateCajun]

_ ugh! its sad that many of you will never realize no matter what the school name is UL will never be the flagship university, teir 1 school, or athletic power house. period. if you all put this much passion into the athletic program everyone in college sports would know who UL is. instead the athletics simply suck and your still known as UL-L _

Thank you for the kind words, so constructive. Man why do UL fans not like most LSU fans.....I just can't figure it out......I guess that UL education just isn't good enough.

[cajun_tiger]

truth hurts. i have an education from both schools so i ben on both sides of the fence. while at UL all i heard was crys...lsu this...lsu that. the blame lies with in your school Brah! not lsu. UL fans stay so focused on trying to bring down the so called evil empire that its consumed you all and is actually bringing down your own university, but most UL fans will never see it.

it seems like a trend at UL...putting the blame on everyone but the university. waaaaaaa, lsu is the flagship university, waaaaaaa its the independence bowls fault we didnt get the bid. for god sakes MAN UP.