For the purposes of clarification neither "UL-L" nor "UL Lafayette" is "our name".
The name of our university is the "University of Louisiana at Lafayette". Among the several popular name variations available, we, meaning the true supporters of our university, have settled upon "UL" and "Louisiana".
End of discussion.
Not sure what you mean by "True Supporters" , but as I said, I would love to always be referred to as UL or Louisiana, but until we become a dominant University of Louisiana program (Lafayette or Monroe) we will not be referred to as such nationally. Sorry I didn't "end the discussion" as you wanted.
I don't think that anyone has a problem with the name itself, but people do have a problem with the inconsistant efforts of the school to establish itself as The University of Louisiana.
I also think that many folks have become so passionate about it because of the history behind the name change in '84, and the fact that so many others around the state opposed it for no other reason than to be difficult and to make sure that no one school was able to advance itself, and make sure that no school would be able to "distance itself from the pack."
I also think that the name change has much less to do with athletics, and more to do with the school as a whole. Academically, I think that UL has distanced itself from, and become a better school than ULM. And if you wanted to base it primarily on athletics, I don't think that you'd have an argument from many people if you said that, as a whole, our teams have been better than theirs. The only sport in which they have beaten us on a consistent basis is football, and I still think that we have the resources in to improve much more, and more quickly than they do, if we utilized them correctly. Now, you could make the argument that being that football is the biggest sport in the NCAA, that is all that matters...but if you wanted to talk about which school is farther ahead academically and athletically, as a whole, and which school has more potential for greater improvement, I think the answer would be obvious. That being said, talk is cheap, and potential doesn't get you anything. And, it will be up to the new adminsitration to continue to try to improve and distance ourselves, not only from ULM, but from all schools in the state and in the region, if we want to be respected and rightfully known as the University of Louisiana.
Maybe some here need to bone up on UL history? You want to see something funny? Get into a conversation about state universities with a NON UL person. When they add the dreaded city tag, come back with a UL or Louisiana reference....watch how quickly the mood changes....LOL!!! Lots of not caring going on...surprisingly from some of our own??? WOW!!
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I completely agree. Can't we also agree that this name issue (nationally at least) is based on perception? Football garners the most attention from a perception standpoint.
I don't think anyone here is trying to argue that we shouldn't be called UL. I also don't think anybody is saying that ULM is the better university.
And for the record, I admire your UL patriotism. But to suggest that being a true fan means you must get angry at every media outlet when they call us "U L L" is misguided IMO.
Speaking for myself, it depends upon the underlying reason (if it can be determined). In the case of, for example, the Advocate, it is obvious what their reasoning is. Many do it without malice.
Mine is the very same attitude I have seen expressed about "UAB" and "UCF". Those are the popular names their fans have chosen and prefer. I feel exactly the same way about "UL".
True fans are the ones who buy tickets, attend games, make donations, wear the colors and so on.
I thought a good opportunity was missed with the name game at the WCWS. All of the schools had the name of the school written across their tops. Would have been a good time to have just Louisiana printed across the front to show case the name on a national level. I have absolutely no objection to having RC on the front and being relatively new here I don't quite understand the name issue but that was just a thought for those of you who have an issue with it. JMO
University of Texas at Austin = TEXAS
University of California at Berkeley = CALIFORNIA
University of Louisiana at Lafayette = LOUISIANA
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