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    So I did some diggin'.

    Robert Lee's best was 11/31 (64.5%) in 2004-2005.
    Jessie Evans' best was 25/34 (73.5%), in 1999-2000.
    Fletcher's best was 22/30 (73.3%) in 1993-1994.
    Bobby Paschal topped out at 22/29 (75.9%) in 1982-1983.
    Jim Hatfield, 21/29 (72.4%) in 1976-1977.

    The only other coach, and I think you know who that was, posted 82+% winning seasons.

    Let's say we just win half of the remaining games, that puts us at 18/33 officially, so it would be the best season we've had since Robert Lee's best (and first) season. If Robert Lee gets six years, and Marty got 8, I think holding any coach to only 4 years is a bit ridiculous, unless it's just so horrible as to be deplorable.

    I'll be honest, I don't remember what happened with Marty. I don't know the ins and outs of why he was let go. But don't throw "wins and losses" in someone's face, and then when they deliver IN THE SAME SEASON, say, "well, too little too late."

    This season ain't over. And these kids ain't done. I ain't writing them off yet, and anyone who does is a fool.




    source: http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/...ana-lafayette/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    I think instead of knucking your teammates after a missed free throw, each one should _____ slap you. I think free throw percentages would go up by an average of 10% across the board. An extra point kicker has a snapper and holder to depend on, he's got 11 animals trying to either bull rush him or jump up and block it, and he's timing a move forward during a snap to plant and kick a funny shaped ball in outdoor conditions. A free throw shooter has none of these obstacles. There are 80 year old men and 12 year old girls that shoot better than 70% from the line. As a basketball player on scholarship, these cats need to get that damn ball in the basket during "free throws". Period. All of the pathetic precedents be damned!
    Have you ever had to shoot free throws in a crowded gym or auditorium during the late stages of a game??

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    Have you ever had to shoot free throws in a crowded gym or auditorium during the late stages of a game??
    A) SBC games aren't crowded, and B) we are missing just as many front ends of one and ones early in contests as we are missing late game bonus FTs. In fact, it was pointed out the other day that our opponents and UL are normally shooting over 70% in the last 5 minutes of play.

    You have no idea the pressure I'm under shooting FT's on my brother-n-law's crooked driveway, with inebriated relatives and friends talking smack and placing side bets on my hits and misses! I'm money from the FT line!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    Have you ever had to shoot free throws in a crowded gym or auditorium during the late stages of a game??
    Well... I watched Kelvin Price step up to the line with his team down 2 and no time left on the clock after getting fouled on a three point shot at the buzzer in front of a crowd of 4000+ in Blackham, and calmly sink all 3 for the win. Shooting free throws is a skill that can be learned; and like making putts is a combination of repeated muscle movements and concentration. Also like making putts, there are some people who never learn to do it consistently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    SBC games aren't crowded
    With the right crowd support, it ain't the numbers, man. It's the noise. Thankfully, these games have been interesting enough lately that the crowd numbers are increasing at the 'dome. Man, I would love to hear that same crowd at Blackham (but I can still do without those age-old bleachers).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    I think instead of knucking your teammates after a missed free throw, each one should _____ slap you. I think free throw percentages would go up by an average of 10% across the board. An extra point kicker has a snapper and holder to depend on, he's got 11 animals trying to either bull rush him or jump up and block it, and he's timing a move forward during a snap to plant and kick a funny shaped ball in outdoor conditions. A free throw shooter has none of these obstacles. There are 80 year old men and 12 year old girls that shoot better than 70% from the line. As a basketball player on scholarship, these cats need to get that damn ball in the basket during "free throws". Period. All of the pathetic precedents be damned!
    When in graduate school we studied the results of positive and negative feedback and future performance---What if there were a way in practice to let the ball go right through the net if the FT were made but if it was off the ball would bounce into a big hoop which would activate a rope tied to the shooters testicles--the miss response would be a sudden jerk on the rope---Just a thought!!! lol this would be an example of pretty extreme negative reinforcement---Maybe an ice cream could be given for 90% production!!!! lol

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetragrammaton View Post
    With the right crowd support, it ain't the numbers, man. It's the noise. Thankfully, these games have been interesting enough lately that the crowd numbers are increasing at the 'dome. Man, I would love to hear that same crowd at Blackham (but I can still do without those age-old bleachers).
    Blackham was intimidating more for the crowd being right on top of the floor, than just the noise. The noise was awesome, but I think the closeness factor was the difference. I think noise works more during defensive stands and transition opportunities for juicing your guys up and getting into the other guys' heads. In reality, I think most teams shoot about the same FT wise on the road as at home.

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    When in graduate school we studied the results of positive and negative feedback and future performance---What if there were a way in practice to let the ball go right through the net if the FT were made but if it was off the ball would bounce into a big hoop which would activate a rope tied to the shooters testicles--the miss response would be a sudden jerk on the rope---Just a thought!!! lol this would be an example of pretty extreme negative reinforcement---Maybe an ice cream could be given for 90% production!!!! lol
    Both systems work. But, we've moved from negative reinforcement for mistakes, to negative for mistakes and positive for success, to only positive for success, to confusing everyone by handing out positives for everything regardless.

    The middle ground is the right place. A mix of both. Of course, you have to explain the reasoning, be consistent for everyone, and don't misapply. But, you do not eliminate negative or positive reinforcement. It is also important to assist the process of improvement. You don't just demand improvement and expect it to arrive from nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver View Post
    Well... I watched Kelvin Price step up to the line with his team down 2 and no time left on the clock after getting fouled on a three point shot at the buzzer in front of a crowd of 4000+ in Blackham, and calmly sink all 3 for the win. Shooting free throws is a skill that can be learned; and like making putts is a combination of repeated muscle movements and concentration. Also like making putts, there are some people who never learn to do it consistently.
    Its a skill but there is much more that goes into it. You ask any coach, they will tell you that the kids shoot the ball MUCH better in practice than in a game. They have the skills to shoot it when it doesn't count but things are different when it means something. My argument is not that we need to improve because we do, especially in the second half. However, people make light of how easy it is supposed to be but many have never had to do it in crunch time in a competitive contest.

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyr View Post
    Its a skill but there is much more that goes into it. You ask any coach, they will tell you that the kids shoot the ball MUCH better in practice than in a game. They have the skills to shoot it when it doesn't count but things are different when it means something. My argument is not that we need to improve because we do, especially in the second half. However, people make light of how easy it is supposed to be but many have never had to do it in crunch time in a competitive contest.
    Coach Hud said that Bret Baer sucked in practice. But, for whatever reason, he was clutch on Saturdays. I imagine some basketball players actually shoot better at the stripe in game situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    Coach Hud said that Bret Baer sucked in practice. But, for whatever reason, he was clutch on Saturdays. I imagine some basketball players actually shoot better at the stripe in game situations.
    ---And to think that in many test studies ---mental practice had better achievements than physical practice!!!! I think that the best form of positive reinforcement could be not tet au tet but when an athlete finds out vicariously about a positive comment!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More View Post
    Coach Hud said that Bret Baer sucked in practice. But, for whatever reason, he was clutch on Saturdays. I imagine some basketball players actually shoot better at the stripe in game situations.
    I would like to know who they are. Maybe go ask Roy Williams what he thinks....

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