The negative power of unspoken words

[4LSU]

_ How about addressing that first paragraph specifically to grandcoteaukitty?

As for the second, Robe did have ties here as a player. And if folks in lake chuck think Robe is a traitor to them I won't argue that point. But when Robe left Ryan Street he didn't do things or say things to damage their program. And as everyone has pointed out it was more the way Yvette left, the things she said and did to hurt the UL program than it is that she left. And I'll admit, where she left for does add to the situation. _

This just me, but a traitor is one who pretends to be one of you while working behind the scenes/hidden to do you damage. In others words, a soldier who wears the same uniform as you shooting you to benefit the other army. A traitor is not one who leaves your side in plain view of all to cast their lot with another. imo

I haven't seen any evidence of Yvette or Robe being a "traitor" to any school employing them, but each to our own.

[Sonsissymia]

_ YG and Nick Saban are/were motivated by money. How do you equate Soto spending her senior year at UL in any way equivalent? I find your calling a student-athlete a "traitor" a bit on the irresponsible side. I do not think you should drag a young person, whose reasons are not that apparent to me nor you, into the same discussion as coaches (employed grown-ups).

I still find it hard to believe you have a daughter at UL. You pretend to be an audience member, here for the purpose of entertainment. You just can't keep off the stage, can you? _

1) i don't call her a traitor--it's why i used the quotes around it. i was trying to make a point about the lack of a two-way street when anything ul related is involved with you guys.

2) believe it.

3) no, i can't keep off the stage. so many things cost, i can't help but abuse the things that are free.

[4LSU]

_ Its all about the plaque. Poor thing hasn't gotten over it yet.

I'll never tell.

Z _

Too late...I saw it hanging in your den and I have informed the plaque police!!

The black choppers are on the way!!

[Sonsissymia]

_ Too late...I saw it hanging in your den and I have informed the plaque police!!

The black choppers are on the way!! _

i hope they use one like in "blue thunder." remember it had 'silent mode?' it'll be right outside the den window and z won't even know it!!!!!!!!

[Turbine]

_ This just me, but a traitor is one who pretends to be one of you while working behind the scenes/hidden to do you damage. In others words, a soldier who wears the same uniform as you shooting you to benefit the other army. A traitor is not one who leaves your side in plain view of all to cast their lot with another. imo

I haven't seen any evidence of Yvette or Robe being a "traitor" to any school employing them, but each to our own. _

I agree the use of traitor is far too strong a word.

The transition actions of YG looked more like self proclaimed program ownership.

I can almost sense her feelings at the time. There isn't a good coach in America that doesn't have a sense of program ownership. Someway, somehow they have to be able to instantly turn it off when they take other jobs.

UL softball was Yvette's baby, but in sports babies can't go with you. When she gave it up for adoption, her failure was in not cutting the umbilical cord cleanly. I am referring to the information void she left behind.

Refusing to play is not a substitute cutting of the umbilical either.

jmo

[Zeebart21]

i hope they use one like in "blue thunder." remember it had 'silent mode?' it'll be right outside the den window and z won't even know it!!!!!!!!

He won't remember that, he's too young. I remember.

Z

[CajunRed]

This is, of course, only MY OPINION... but if were my decision, we would not play in softball OR baseball. I think both our baseball and softball teams would do fine without ever having to play them and get into all this stuff each time. I was SO happy for the few years that we did not play in baseball. I am currently glad that we don't play in softball and hope that continues!!

[Cover2]

_ Her actions after leaving put the program in reverse. The program may have gotten to a point while she was there, but the damage she intentionally caused erased all of that. It's not like the Lotiefs inherited a powerhouse. They had to rebuild it. Yes, what she accomplished with the Cajuns was significant, but her total effect on the program is insignificant in my opinion.

If I work my whole life to retire on $25M and then blow it gambling, my life's work, even though I earned a fortune, was pretty pointless don't you think? _

You do have a point (about the internal damage), but I would argue this -- if Girouard had never coached at U(S)L at all, would the Cajun softball program even exist. You say that you work your whole life to retire on $25 million (and you are right, it would be pointless if lost gambling) -- what Girouard did for the program is worth more than money. Even with all of the idiotic things she did upon leaving, she still created the program. The fact that the Lotiefs inherited a program at all shows you how much effect Yvette had on softball at UL. She made some bad decisions upon leaving and burned some bridges that she may need to use again someday, but she left an indelible mark on the university's athletic program -- in a way, I guess, both good and bad.

[Cajunsmike]

_ You guys are much more than simply "competive" in softball and you are a player on the national scene. I think most reasonable LSU fans have no problem seeing that as a fact.

As to the "traitor" thing, why is it ok for a coach to move from the Cowboys to the Cajuns without having a negative label affixed to their back but not ok to move from the Cajuns to the Tigers?

Best of luck to both teams in the regional. _

You did not address my point of how she left (letter to season ticket holders). That is the issue, not that she left

[Cajunsmike]

_ they sure love their "traitor" Soto, don't they? i tell you again, you have GOT to love this site. _

Soto was asked to leave LSU. As a result, her move was not entirely voluntary. She probably would still be there had that not occurred.