State and BR copy UL ... again

[Cajun Power]

LSU absolutely dominates the state in bar passage rates, not that bar passage rates are remotely relevant in any way whatsoever as to determine what the "best" law school is, since the bar exam is in no way an indication of one's proficiency in the practice of law. Trying to point out the 2 or 3 times Tulane has marginally snuck past LSU in bar passage rates is foolish to say the least.

You're right. Bar passage rates are pretty much irrelevant for determining how good a law school is, especially considering Tulane is a national law school and LSU is a state school. That's not a knock, but a distinction between the two. Only a fourth of Tulane's students remain in Louisiana. Tulane's program isn't geared toward passing the bar in Louisiana, so naturally LSU students have a leg up. The rankings, on the other hand, consistently put Tulane in the top 50 and LSU somewhere between 80 and 90. If I was somehow trying to make the case that LSU was better, I'd stick with bar passage rates (although that doesn't work either when LSU hasn't been dominant as of late).

Both LSU and Loyola dominate the state in emplyoment rates upon graduation and starting salaries as well.

LSU and Loyola would dominate in state employment rates upon graduation. Their graduates overwhelmingly stay in-state. As for starting salaries, I'd like to know where you can back that up. It's pretty well documented that Tulane has the highest starting salaries for any law school in the state, but if your contention is that those graduates who remain in Louisiana after graduation are below LSU and Loyola, that is information I'd love to see.

To the others: Sorry for the threadjack. My point was never to get in a discussion about this, but rather to point out that even though I started out at LSU, I came back to UL, greatly enjoyed my time and got into a great graduate school. UL is what you make out of it, and the options are endless for UL graduates. I couldn't be more proud of my school or more pleased with the education I recieved.

[Zeebart21]

You're right. Bar passage rates are pretty much irrelevant for determining how good a law school is, especially considering Tulane is a national law school and LSU is a state school. That's not a knock, but a distinction between the two. Only a fourth of Tulane's students remain in Louisiana. Tulane's program isn't geared toward passing the bar in Louisiana, so naturally LSU students have a leg up. The rankings, on the other hand, consistently put Tulane in the top 50 and LSU somewhere between 80 and 90. If I was somehow trying to make the case that LSU was better, I'd stick with bar passage rates (although that doesn't work either when LSU hasn't been dominant as of late).



LSU and Loyola would dominate in state employment rates upon graduation. Their graduates overwhelmingly stay in-state. As for starting salaries, I'd like to know where you can back that up. It's pretty well documented that Tulane has the highest starting salaries for any law school in the state, but if your contention is that those graduates who remain in Louisiana after graduation are below LSU and Loyola, that is information I'd love to see.

To the others: Sorry for the threadjack. My point was never to get in a discussion about this, but rather to point out that even though I started out at LSU, I came back to UL, greatly enjoyed my time and got into a great graduate school. UL is what you make out of it, and the options are endless for UL graduates. I couldn't be more proud of my school or more pleased with the education I recieved.

You don't need to apologize for this. Typical storyline. lsu clown attempts to persuade we underlings that lsu is gods gift to higher education in LA. Intelligent UL guy shuts his ass down Keep up the good work, sir.

Z

[Sonsissymia]

_ You don't need to apologize for this. Typical storyline. lsu clown attempts to persuade we underlings that lsu is gods gift to higher education in LA. Intelligent UL guy shuts his ass down Keep up the good work, sir.

Z _

at my firm, tulane grads get lower starting offers because we know the "pay your fee, get your B" mentality that was bred into them will translate into their looking for a banker's hours practice and reduce their productivity.

[Zeebart21]

at my firm, tulane grads get lower starting offers because we know the "pay your fee, get your B" mentality that was bred into them will translate into their looking for a banker's hours practice and reduce their productivity.

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[geo_cajun]

I don't know the academic side as well-but if your rationale is as strong, well ... _

haha, typical ankle grabbin' response. "I don't know bout no book learnin', but I love me sum football, go tigahs (burp)".

Anyway, this hackneyed thread needs to end. We have heard the same chatter a thousand times.

[Sonsissymia]

_ haha, typical ankle grabbin' response. "I don't know bout no book learnin', but I love me sum football, go tigahs (burp)".

Anyway, this hackneyed thread needs to end. We have heard the same chatter a thousand times. _

it had ended; on may 17th. thanks for the bump.

[Cajunsmike]

at my firm, tulane grads get lower starting offers because we know the "pay your fee, get your B" mentality that was bred into them will translate into their looking for a banker's hours practice and reduce their productivity.

Having spent 20 years in New Orleans, I tend to agree with your assessment of some Tulane grads. Also, most of them are from the NE and go back there eventually. Therefore, why put a lot of resources into people who are not committed to your firm.

[LsuULfan]

_ haha, typical ankle grabbin' response. "I don't know bout no book learnin', but I love me sum football, go tigahs (burp)".

Anyway, this hackneyed thread needs to end. We have heard the same chatter a thousand times. _

Speaking of typical responses ...

I will agree w/you on the last statement.

PS I love me sum baseball too ... What a night

[Sonsissymia]

_ Speaking of typical responses ...

I will agree w/you on the last statement.

PS I love me sum baseball too ... What a night _

oh yeah; i for one was thrilled that the tigers copied yet again last night--copied the '00 cajuns by heading to omaha. and may they copy them annually for the next decade or so.

[LsuULfan]

_ oh yeah; i for one was thrilled that the tigers copied yet again last night--copied the '00 cajuns by heading to omaha. and may they copy them annually for the next decade or so. _

Actually you are incorrect-as I understand it. We were copying UNO. Now I'm not sure if the Cajuns were copying UNO or copying us copying UNO, I get confused... Or maybe we were all copying Abner Doubleday or whoever he copied from ...

[LsuULfan]

_ oh yeah; i for one was thrilled that the tigers copied yet again last night--copied the '00 cajuns by heading to omaha. and may they copy them annually for the next decade or so. _

Actually you are incorrect-as I understand it. We were copying UNO. Now I'm not sure if the Cajuns were copying UNO or copying us copying UNO, I get confused... Or maybe we were all copying Abner Doubleday or whoever he copied from ...

[CajunFun]

was it probation, or one of the only two times my memory tells me a school got the death penalty? turbine?

Two schools were the first ever to receive complete shut-down of a program, before the penalty had a name, both in basketball: UL; and Long Beach State...

...coached by none other than Jerry "Tark the Shark" Tarkanian.

The penalty is now called the "Death Penalty."

Kentucky had made the NCAA mad years before, and the NCAA had asked other schools not to play them. No one did, so there is a year that KY has no basketball. But it wasn't a penalty, it was a voluntary action by the other schools.

And, it was before college sports had become a big money operation.

After UL and LBSU got the Death Penalty, the NCAA exclusively reserved it as a penalty for "small" schools, for quite a few years. Finally, the first "big-time" school, SMU (you youngsters will be surprised to hear that SMU was one of the dominant college football programs for several years) got the Death Penalty.

SMU never recovered from it, and when the SWC dissolved, SMU was not invited to join the Big XII.

And that, I believe, was the last time the Death Penalty was ever given out, to anyone, for anything.