State and BR copy UL ... again

[Zeebart21]

The Cannon or Perriloot version?

We're going "old school"...Cannon.

Z

[Sonsissymia]

_ We're going "old school"...Cannon.

Z _

it's really the only way to go.

[NOCajun]

_ Alabama is still kickin. Pettus is still "the man"... Got in yesterday afternoon. Gradgeation(thanks Baldwin) is Saturday....daughter sweet 16 on Sunday. It will be a full, very expensive weekend!

Always good to hear from you.

Z _

CONGRATS!! I get to take off a day next week so I can go see my God-baby graduate from Teurlings on MONDAY NIGHT. I still feel like blasting a nasty-gram to their President for that one!!! Mine's going to be a brand-spankin'-new RAGIN' CAJUN next year. What about yours??

[CajunFun]

Another instance of LSU raping the state, ask La Tech how their ladies basketball team feels. LSU had been mediocre for a while, while La Tech was going to Final Fours in ladies Bball. Now that has changed, now its LSU ladies Bball in final fours, and im not sure La Tech even made the womens ncaa tourney. They want the best and they will get it, by hook or by crook.

It's a pattern.

State has no interest in baseball. UNO makes the CWS... BAM! State has to have a team.

State has no interest in men's basketball. UL has a Top-10 team... BAM! State has to have a team.

State has no interest in women's basketball. Tech wins an NC... BAM! State has to have a team.

State has no interest in softball. UL has a Top-10 team... BAM! State has to have a team (not to mention our coach).

And it goes for academics, too.

UL has a PhD in Comp Sci? State has to have it.

UL has a research park? State has to have one.

UL develops Francophone Studies? State says they have the same thing.

UL focuses on Cajun studies? State begins hiring faculty in Cajun studies.

UL gets a PhD option in Rhetoric? State has to duplicate it.

UL has one of the largest US nursing programs? State ramps theirs up.

UL has one of the best architecture departments in the South? State tries to shut it down.

UL's English PhD outperforms State's, in graduates/faculty, in graduate employment? State tries to shut it down.

UL hires one of the top people in the world in biofuels? State scrambles to develop their own program.

UL develops LUMCON at Cocodrie? State uses their political clout to grab control of it.

UL develops the concept of a management center for disasters? State duplicates it.

UL and ULM begin excavating at Poverty Point? State jumps in the middle with both feet (and screws it up, too).

UL hires a string of top-notch writers (John Kennedy Toole, James Lee Burke, Ernest Gaines)? State tries to usurp them all.

It even goes to the little things. We use "Geaux", they copy it. We write "Hot Boudin," they claim they originated it. I even remember when we came out with t-shirts for USL where the "L" was the state of Louisiana, and within weeks, State was making exactly the same thing with the letters reversed.

But what has State generated that is innovative? That's easy.

Nothing.

The most important measure of a University is the level of innovation, of intellectual activity, of pioneering courage.

Which is why, despite State and BR's vastly larger funding and political clout, Lafayette and UL are beating their fat butts all over the place.

[ShowDog]

_ It's a pattern.

Lafayette is booming again with high oil prices. BR is still building somewhat because of Katrina.

We need to get I-49 finished to New Orleans so BR won't even be a dot on the map for people coming from the North to New Orleans. Lafayette will leave BR in it's wake when that happens.

[CajunFun]

Oh, and to be honest? National Wetlands Center, Picard Center and NIRC Primate Center were all supposed to go to State.

State turned down the primate center (I understand in the '60's, they also turned down an offer from the state to get into computer science). So we got them both.

As for NWRC and Picard, State played so many political games with the two centers, they both came to UL and asked if they could move over here.

And we duplicated Insurance & Risk Management. That one's gotta sting. G. Frank Purvis, a loyal State alum, donated a lot of money to create a program in Insurance & Risk Management at State...

...with which our beloved flagship did squat. So he came over to UL, raised and gave a lot of money, because he knew we'd do it right.

Again, that's gotta sting.

[LsuULfan]

_ It's a pattern.

State has no interest in baseball. UNO makes the CWS... BAM! State has to have a team.

State has no interest in men's basketball. UL has a Top-10 team... BAM! State has to have a team.

State has no interest in women's basketball. Tech wins an NC... BAM! State has to have a team.

State has no interest in softball. UL has a Top-10 team... BAM! State has to have a team (not to mention our coach).

To think that LSU had interest in these sports due to the success of the other instate schools is ludicrous. Not taking away from the other schools or putting LSU on a pedestal-but the cause and effect is not there. Like every other SEC/BCS school LSU competes and tries to build programs in all of these sports, and pretty much followed the same timing of development in these sports as other similar schools. Might have developed some sooner or later in some sports than some of its peers. Generally smaller schools got into baseball, women's basketball and softball sooner, the Southern football schools didn't get as much into basketball as they did football until later. You could apply your theory in a lot of other states-but its more the pattern of development of the sports-not an LSU-other Louisiana school thing.

I don't know the academic side as well-but if your rationale is as strong, well ...

[Turbine]

_ It's a pattern.

State has no interest in baseball. UNO makes the CWS... BAM! State has to have a team.

State has no interest in men's basketball. UL has a Top-10 team... BAM! State has to have a team.

State has no interest in women's basketball. Tech wins an NC... BAM! State has to have a team.

State has no interest in softball. UL has a Top-10 team... BAM! State has to have a team (not to mention our coach).

Not totally chronological, I don't guess it was supposed to be.

Everything you say is true no one can refute it.

However I think what happened (going far back) is the schools with a little money put their money into football and hit the mother load. This allowed them to compete with in-state schools on a need be basis.

The schools with little or low money put the available dough where they saw fit and most of the time it was not a money maker.

Football in the 1960's and 70's and 80's and today was/is like owning boardwalk and the dollar influx basically allows monopolies to develop creating the ability to snap up minor sports overnight.

It is over it is done with, I am just glad that with a little hard work and marketing it is still possible to develop competive clubs in all the non football sports.

jmo

[Membertou]

_ To think that LSU had interest in these sports due to the success of the other instate schools is ludicrous. Not taking away from the other schools or putting LSU on a pedestal-but the cause and effect is not there. Like every other SEC/BCS school LSU competes and tries to build programs in all of these sports, and pretty much followed the same timing of development in these sports as other similar schools. Might have developed some sooner or later in some sports than some of its peers. Generally smaller schools got into baseball, women's basketball and softball sooner, the Southern football schools didn't get as much into basketball as they did football until later. You could apply your theory in a lot of other states-but its more the pattern of development of the sports-not an LSU-other Louisiana school thing.

I don't know the academic side as well-but if your rationale is as strong, well ... _

When it comes to the girl sports, clearly, the 1990s Title IX lawsuits were the impetus for LSU to ramp up their efforts.

[Sonsissymia]

_ Not totally chronological, I don't guess it was supposed to be.

Everything you say is true no one can refute it.

However I think what happened (going far back) is the schools with a little money put their money into football and hit the mother load. This allowed them to compete with in-state schools on a need be basis.

The schools with little or low money put the available dough where they saw fit and most of the time it was not a money maker.

Football in the 1960's and 70's and 80's and today was/is like owning boardwalk and the dollar influx basically allows monopolies to develop creating the ability to snap up minor sports overnight.

It is over it is done with, I am just glad that with a little hard work and marketing it is still possible to develop competive clubs in all the non football sports.

jmo _

turb, you're the research guy--tell me: what came first, pistol pete's years, or the usl top 10 ranking? what came first, bob petit's final four sec champs or usl's top 10 ranking? turb, i know it's a ul board, and of course it's going to be slanted hard in favor of all things local, but you are a pretty bright guy, it appears to me--when really stupid things are posted, i could see you ignoring them in deference to the party line, but to actively jump on board? i don't get it, you're better than that.