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    douglas's Avatar douglas is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Fan for Sure

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgwQwA1MZbg
    http://youtu.be/kgwQwA1MZbg?t=23m30s
    sorry skip to 23:33 its just a highlight but that means that the game existed somewhere at some point hopefully it still does


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    Quote Originally Posted by douglas View Post
    right on Z, a reward of some sort is the last option, 1st i will test the waters then see if that needs to be done, but we shall keep in touch
    Have you tried channel 10(KLFY) or 3(KATC)? They may have some old new clips, both have been around!

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglas View Post
    ive called every school the cajuns played from 1957-73 in search of footage for the doc, when i was done i called again, and then again. Getting past the gate keeper is hard, getting someone to actually look for relics from ages ago when it has no benefit to them is nearly impossible, we have gotten lucky twice but now i am contemplating adding a reward of x amount of dollars, i haven't nailed a figure down yet.

    may main focus is on the 2 sweet 16 games against k state and louisville. the bonus ones would be anything from the 66 season opening road trip against the likes of duke, houston, vandy, tennessee and auburn. I find it hard to believe the fan bases don't have anything in a private collection.

    my next tactic is to reach out to each and every alumni chapter thinking that anyone who is willing to organize a watch party 1,00 miles away from campus will have something or at least know a guy and so on.

    my question is who is willing to donate to the pot to make a finders fee a reality? Im going to approach the university about this but im sure if they assist in any way they will simply ask the fan base so im skipping the middle man so to speak.

    yes we still have operating funds on hand but they are locked into services we will need to wrap. any and all expenses have been coming out of my pocket directly which i dont have a problem with, but this will require a bit more funds i think. Obviously this has a lot of moving parts to it so if anyone is willing we will discuss further. In the mean time i'll keep grinding away, peace out cajun nation
    A few years ago, there were some old film reels in some lockers in Blackham on the West side of the building. They probably are not there anymore, hopefully the Athletic Department has them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaddyCajun View Post
    Have you tried channel 10(KLFY) or 3(KATC)? They may have some old new clips, both have been around!
    I wish. I spent time contacting the local stations of every single team we played during the Shipley era. What I quickly realized is that every station in the country has digitized their archives by now. This means every reel was trashed many years ago, and only the most important reels were ever digitized. If we needed footage from 2000 we'd have a gold mine saved on a computer, but from the 50's to the mid 90's there's just nothing left. Even the big stations have nothing.

    I guess it makes sense, the news is all about documenting today, not yesterday. But I was still surprised at just how little they kept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaddyCajun View Post
    A few years ago, there were some old film reels in some lockers in Blackham on the West side of the building. They probably are not there anymore, hopefully the Athletic Department has them!
    I saw about 50(plus or minus) large reel to reel labeled game tapes in enclosed metal circular containers sitting in a film cart. The opponent and date were written on the outside of the containers. There were several years games(organized from 1970-1973). The cart and the films were the only things in that room. I called Robert Lee to let him know about the films and I felt they needed to be brought to the basketball office in the Cajundome. It probably was never done. A few years later Alonza Allen told me a friend of his called him to let him know that some films from his time had been thrown in a dumpster at Blackham. Alonza drove over to Blackham and retrieved some(few) of the films out of the dumpster. I don't know where Alonza's era films were stored in Blackham. I'm afraid almost all of those old films have probably been thrown away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRebel View Post
    I guess it makes sense, the news is all about documenting today, not yesterday. But I was still surprised at just how little they kept.
    It is a shame that video media never saw themselves as the equivalent of the "newspaper of record."

    Douglas' "Light's Out at Blackham" will become the VoR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    It is a shame that video media never saw themselves as the equivalent of the "newspaper of record."

    Douglas' "Light's Out at Blackham" will become the VoR.
    I know, I always figured they would feel obligated to keep these old reels somewhere. Since you bring newspapers, I'm not even sure most newspapers have their old papers archived. Back when I was pulling newspaper articles for this I found the only people who actually took care in archiving the old papers were college libraries, not the papers themselves. Unfortunately many of the microfilm reels they were archived on have started to degrade. Of all the ones I looked at from the 60's-70's about one in 5 were completely unusable. Hopefully someone will decide to digitize and preserve these before we lose them all.

    And you're right. In the future when people want to learn about Shipley and this team I'm glad LOIB will be the place they go. Aside from the hours and hours of interviews he has done from everyone involved, Douglas managed to get his hands on footage and sound that were all but lost to history. It's a good story and an important moment in basketball history. I'm glad it is being preserved through this film.

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    douglas's Avatar douglas is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Fan for Sure

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    Looks like I may have located the sweet 16 game against Louisville,just got confirmation its sitting in the archives! Now we wait and see what it looks like if its a broadcast or a coach copy and the always fun process of getting the NCAA to write us a consent letter. All in all not a bad way to end the day


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    Quote Originally Posted by douglas View Post
    Looks like I may have located the sweet 16 game against Louisville,just got confirmation its sitting in the archives! Now we wait and see what it looks like if its a broadcast or a coach copy and the always fun process of getting the NCAA to write us a consent letter. All in all not a bad way to end the day
    Nice job Douglas, no stone unturned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by douglas View Post
    Looks like I may have located the sweet 16 game against Louisville,just got confirmation its sitting in the archives! Now we wait and see what it looks like if its a broadcast or a coach copy and the always fun process of getting the NCAA to write us a consent letter. All in all not a bad way to end the day
    I feel like you and Turb should be added to UL's staff stat. Him with his fundraising efforts and you shmoozing around getting things accomplished.

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    How about asking Ron Gomes who was doing the TV at about that time---Just might find something!!! I think that maybe he did some TV --could be very wrong on that!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    How about asking Ron Gomes who was doing the TV at about that time---Just might find something!!! I think that maybe he did some TV --could be very wrong on that!!!
    Or you could ask Ron Gomez too.

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    douglas's Avatar douglas is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Fan for Sure

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    Looks like the tv side of the industry has tossed everything they had across the country.
    in fact I pestered tv10 until they let me dig through the attic myself. I brought two people with me and all of the film cans were "3 stooges" very symbolic.

    I spent every Friday for about 12 months calling athletic departments, news outlets etc with no luck. Then I remembered I got the Nicholls stuff from there archives....derp. I've gotten more leads and more hits one one week than I have in 18 months. Looks like everything if it hasn't been dumped is in libraries across the country.
    I'm waiting to hear from ok. Baptist-I'm speaking with a gent that was at the game and employed by ok.bu as an "athletic historian" how cool of a job is that? Also Findlay college-naia tourn opponent- is a warm lead along with central Michigan.
    LAtech has confirmed 4 games, two from shipleys first year and two from the dean church era as well.

    add that two the game from 72, the one from 73 and the 71 season highlight tell and I have a good mix. I'm not stopping till I get ky hands on as much as possible though


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
    How about asking Ron Gomes who was doing the TV at about that time---Just might find something!!! I think that maybe he did some TV --could be very wrong on that!!!
    My guess is that Doulas has been there, done that.

    Ron G. is the author of "Slam Dunked" after all.

    Just a guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine View Post
    My guess is that Doulas has been there, done that.

    Ron G. is the author of "Slam Dunked" after all.

    Just a guess.
    ----Yea but T-Bine I think he was all radio and might know who the TV guys were!!!

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