2014 Branding Fiasco: UL-Lafayette or UL-L (SBC Reference Guide)

[Turner]

I read that Chris Williams thread the other day where T-Joe said he would comment when he had all the facts, but he never did. Even when it was proved that UL was the victim of a time thief he said nothing and made no changes. I see this current silence as more of the same.

[Cajun Monkee]

To Zoom's point (and has been on this board before) what if T Joe got a call from BR and the premise was this:

"Stop it with the UL/Louisiana stuff, or the next time you have a bonding issue for your athletics master plan, it won't get past my secretary's desk?"

What is more important, the name issue or the improvements?

If everything is the priority, nothing is a priority.

[Hammer58]

-----Hey Hammer all your stuff is AD Hominem crap---i guess you weren't trained to present an argument in facts----But I will just use your post to once again point out that you were WRONG----The facts "trickled out from various sources" So what you and your argument were wrong and now if looked back on were very stupid----You say things and make judgements without the facts---You know my feelings as well as everybody on this board about the UL name and I just won't be stupid and rush to judgement before I get the facts!!! And PLEASE don't put words that I never said on here as mine!!! And maybe man up when you are wrong!!!

____ you, Boomer. You keep saying you are using my posts to point out I was wrong yet all you use are your twisted alcohol soaked interpretations. I said from day one they should entertain all offers as long as New Orleans Bowl was willing to give them time. But if New Orleans would not wait then we needed to lock up the Bowl slot. I also said from a fan's view, New Orleans was the best choice. My problem was not with the result but with the admin's process. Find a post that contradicts that, Boomer. You can't.

Funny you want me to "man up when I'm wrong" yet you want me (and everyone else) to give TJoe a pass when we are asking him to "man up" and come clean with his constituents. And having you chastise me and accuse me of making judgements without the facts is ____ing hilarious coming from you. You are the king of stupid posts, Boomer.

[CajunEXPRESS]

Hammer God loves children, and yes, even those entering their second childhood. Somebody found a word ad hominem, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem, and actually is one of the first lucid comment Boomer has made in years, yet so wrong.

Agreed, zero evidence that what the administration said was accurate. They did zero to advance an opportunity to play a better foe in Shreveport, ZERO. As for NOLA Bowl? They are never going to crap on us again, they see the green and had a good second and third team available, but not one would bring close to what we brought in dollars. I suspect we had a reasonable amount of time to see if Shreveport was serious. We told them to go Pizz off. That is just stupid.

BOOMER prefers to believe the the heir of the fossil, who learned at the porch of Blanco than his eyes, ears, and common sense. How many times can one man be lied to, deceived, and still believe. Apparently like Jesus said about forgiveness, as often as they tell him it is SO.

[Boomer]

____ you, Boomer. You keep saying you are using my posts to point out I was wrong yet all you use are your twisted alcohol soaked interpretations. I said from day one they should entertain all offers as long as New Orleans Bowl was willing to give them time. But if New Orleans would not wait then we needed to lock up the Bowl slot. I also said from a fan's view, New Orleans was the best choice. My problem was not with the result but with the admin's process. Find a post that contradicts that, Boomer. You can't.
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-------You don't understand---Do you know what Ad Hominem means??? It means to the person/man and I guess I will try and explain it to you---Are you mad to curse me?? That is an A-H and puts nothing in a logical rebuttal----Yes I use your posts and even put quotation marks setting them off and then the next A-H of my interpretations why the anger dude?? Waiting to see that day one post----Oh and from a fans view the NO was the best--well really I give you and the rest of the world credit---many would refer to the administration's process as negotiations and sorry Hammer you don't rate to be part of that----Man up ?? Have you admitted that you were wrong??? No I told you that you DID make judgements without the facts---And you admitted so in you previous post----And finally another Ad Hominem to end it!!! Again why do you keep saying I am giving him a pass--I want to know at least as much as you what the hell happened but I am not stupid enough to rush in and accuse with out FACTS!!!!! Hammer seriously can't you have a discussion without attacking people with false accusations??? I hope you can in the future!!!

[Boomer]

To Zoom's point (and has been on this board before) what if T Joe got a call from BR and the premise was this:

"Stop it with the UL/Louisiana stuff, or the next time you have a bonding issue for your athletics master plan, it won't get past my secretary's desk?"

What is more important, the name issue or the improvements?

If everything is the priority, nothing is a priority.

-------Yes Sir you are on the money---T-joe could well need his butt to be chewed out---but once again if you don't have the FACTS as to what caused the naming deal you can't even enter into the arena of opinions and that is what I have been trying to get through to some people on this board as I think you can tell!!!-----Can you imagine T-joe sitting in his office and he says that is it, I no longer want UL--Now he has been fighting for this university working for it and working overseeing it and all the schools in Louisiana---he has never left Lafayette and has his dream of being the pres of UL come through---Since here he has tried to get the UL thing going---But now he just says and enacts the non UL-----no pressure, no lawsuits, no threats of injunctions, no threats of dismissal, no boycotts by other universities----- just his acting alone on a sudden whim---We will see!!!

[HoustonCajun]

The marketing department at Martin Hall is obviously extremely disconnected with the SID over on Reinhardt. Or they're just plain stupid. They should have deferred the filling out of this form to McCann and crew.

The UL-L thread is now on page 4 with the last post on Jan. 15. We can't let this die out. T-Joe is yet to give a statement and we are almost a week and a half since the fiasco aired. Need to keep this alive until we get answers.

[CajunEXPRESS]

Brother it matters zero what goes on this board except to crystalize our disgust. Until a large group shows up demanding a better explanation, yes sixties style marches, gentle confrontations in public places he will simply ignore all of us as he has always done. Examples Horse Farm, Conference Alignment, Master Plan Delay, emphasizing Cajuns over Louisiana at the football stadium.

Nobody here thinks there is a good place to confront him, and many think it is messy, ugly, unseemly to do that. In short it ain't happening we are never getting a better explanation.

Maybe in his memoirs he will have a chapter on how he had to be the stealth president, the peasants simply did not understand all the evil enemies we had.

[HoustonCajun]

I just posted on a previous thread (that hasn't had a post for 2 days now) that we need to keep this thread alive until we get an explanation as to why we abandoned Louisiana and went to UL-L. Now that thread seems to have been deleted, at least I can no longer find it and it should be at the top with a recent post. Is this really a dead issue now? Did someone at UL request the thread deletion?

[CajunEXPRESS]

The threads are still there. Maybe you hitting NEW2U instead of Ragin Pagin or Last 24. Only new posts that are new2u show up in that version.

[Turbine]

I read that Chris Williams thread the other day where T-Joe said he would comment when he had all the facts, but he never did. Even when it was proved that UL was the victim of a time thief he said nothing and made no changes. I see this current silence as more of the same.

That is one parallel.

[Boomer]

Hammer God loves children, and yes, even those entering their second childhood. Somebody found a word ad hominem, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem, and actually is one of the first lucid comment Boomer has made in years, yet so wrong.

Agreed, zero evidence that what the administration said was accurate. They did zero to advance an opportunity to play a better foe in Shreveport, ZERO. As for NOLA Bowl? They are never going to crap on us again, they see the green and had a good second and third team available, but not one would bring close to what we brought in dollars. I suspect we had a reasonable amount of time to see if Shreveport was serious. We told them to go Pizz off. That is just stupid.

BOOMER prefers to believe the the heir of the fossil, who learned at the porch of Blanco than his eyes, ears, and common sense. How many times can one man be lied to, deceived, and still believe. Apparently like Jesus said about forgiveness, as often as they tell him it is SO.

---Well I can see the knock on defining Hammer's and now your posts----I learned Ad Hominem and its usage in 8th grade at Jesuit and it came in very handy in my masters Logic course on fallacious arguments---2nd childhood (A-H)------Now we just assume that the administration is lying---"I suspect we had a reasonable amount of time"--Hope you don't mind being quoted as it upset Hammer but go ahead and base your posts on what you SUSPECT----and finally the T-Joe is like the old guys!!!! It has been posted on here many times that T-joe is the antithesis or Doc Ray---Again check the campus construction-----He was Doc R's and Blanco's boss!!! but again let's see what will happen and so glad I wasn't in S-Port but enjoying a great Cajun win in the Dome!!!! Oh and I SUSPECT that you did--come on man now that is funny!!!! lol