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    Quote Originally Posted by timlan2057 View Post
    And of course I'm not talking about on the field. I'm talking about the bigger picture of our branding, marketing and progressing as an athletic department and university as a whole. The fight to be called "Louisiana" is a worthy one, not only because of history back to 1984, but the fact that this university sits in the cleanest, most unique, most cultured and beautiful mid-sized city in the United States. The potential here is beyond the sky.

    I'm there with my "Say My Name" sign--and I wasn't the only one. And yet, I suppose our administration--I mean, who else could it be?--makes us look foolish by not "saying our name" in our own house. Yes, I thought muzzling our own PA announcer in our own stadium was shameful. I could have overlooked the "Cajuns-Warhawks" score board but taken in tandem, it just added to my sadness.

    Can someone please tell me that for President Savoie, AD Farmer and Martin Hall, that this was a temporary "discretion-is-the-better-part-of-valor" strategic retreat in preparation for a full charge? Is there a long-term strategy that I have missed? Please, someone educate me if that is true.

    Otherwise, I've lost a lot of stomach for this fight, if our leadership is going to cut us off at the knees like they did Saturday night. Heck, I guess only a few of us on this board were really fighting it and all the stuff in the media over the last few weeks was illusory. If not, we sure threw it away in a bundle last night. And most students don't "get it." I talk to them every day. To them, the "Louisiana" thing was something we, in a good-natured way, play against with ULM for "bragging rights."

    I guess the LSUAMBR people are right--I should "know my place." I am a native south Louisianian who was thrilled to return "home" for graduate school. I'll be leaving the city I've come to love and feel is the best place on earth in May, but I suppose I have to accept the fact that my graduate alma mater, the second largest university in the state with almost 20K students, is nothing more than what they say we are: a "directional" school who should just accept that the flagship is 50 miles east and be happy with crumbs from the table.

    I was really motivated about leading the charge on Student Government towards getting a referendum for a student athletic fee of 50-100 dollars per semester put on the Spring election docket. The process would not have been easy; I was politicking behind the scenes trying to line up support from the College of Presidents to put it on the Senate floor and working on tentative strategies to get the student body to pass it like we got the student fees passed last year to help fund the Master Plan. Yes, somewhere in there the Board of Regents would have to sign off on it, but it would not get started without the students passing it. I was going to get in touch with the Athletic Department and get someone--hopefully our AD--to speak--passionately, I hope-- to the COP and the SGA senate, about the need for a consistent, non-variable source of funding. The approximately five million a year would have been a good start.

    Maybe I'll feel motivated again in a few days and this is just temporary angst from last night. But right now, I just don't feel like leading it. Someone else will, I hope, and I know the "big picture" is bigger than any individuals in Martin Hall or on Reinhardt Drive. But we need to be led from the top. And whether they intended it this way or not, the message our administrative and athletic departments sent to us front-line troops last night with that surrender to those north Louisiana rednecks and this bush-league conference we are in is: "we're happy with what we have" and "we should know our place."

    Now, the vultures in Monroe, Baton Rouge and everywhere else can look, laugh and say as we waved our signs: "Your own leadership doesn't believe that! You are who WE say you are." Why? Because our leadership, by caving last night, did what Richard Nixon said he did for his enemies with Watergate: "I gave them a sword." And our enemies surely did--and will do--what Nixon said his enemies did: " ... and they stuck it in with relish."

    I guess what I thought was a widespread grass-roots surge to move forward, being realistically aware of long-term and short-term goals, was nothing more than we got ridiculously lucky to hire a football coach who came in and changed the culture, but who will be gone one day--and maybe soon. I wonder what Hud would say, if he shared his heart-of-hearts, about what happened last night regarding the surrender? Oh btw, I was in a meeting where we listened to candidates for a recently filled high administrative university post. I wish the recent hire well. I will admit, the hire lost me totally by saying, in so many words that: "we need to recognize who LSU is and who we are." The candidate then elaborated that "we are smaller and more nimble so we can make quicker adjustments." I'm probably dumb, but the message in a nutshell seemed to be "We need to recognize we're smaller than LSU." I dunno. That seems to be the culture, and there's only so much that Hud can do to change it off the football field.

    But while I hope my feelings of futility right now are temporary and maybe someone educates me that what I feel was surrender is really short-term retreat, I've lost my stomach for this fight and just don't feel like the fight would be worth it for grass-roots student passage of an athletic fee. Don't let me paint a false picture--that can be accomplished from other sources, but this was a campaign I was excited about.

    However, the message from Martin Hall and Reinhardt Drive seems to be to sheathe our swords, wave white flags and just accept what is handed down to us from Monroe, the Sunbelt, the media, Baton Rouge, the state legislature and on and on.

    Hell, maybe this IS a fight we can't win.

    But I ask again, hoping someone can tell me I'm wrong ... did we surrender last night?
    Very well said. I think you speak for us all on this board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basinbear View Post
    We were told about the scoreboard Hammer...You, me and a handful of others a couple of weeks ago....you remember.....but I cannot believe that it was taken to such lengths as to muzzle the PA announcer...for Christ sakes man...Louisiana plastered over both end zones and on our Uni's and we pull that stunt? The only purpose it served was to hurt the Administrations cred...unreal.....I have not been this disappointed over something the University did or did not do in a very long time....
    Worse yet, Coach, it was not just the PA announcer who was stifled. J1M was not in attendance last night because TJoe instructed him to wear boxers rather than his thong. Apparently Bruno stated that he wears a thong and is incensed that J1M wears a thong in violation of the secret partnership he made with The Fossil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CockyCajun View Post
    Put on your Leopard Leotards
    Where'd you get that picture of Tabitha?

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    The PA debacle last night was just embarrassing. If we had to cave to the wishes of ULM and/or the Sunbelt Conference, why not just say it's "Another Ragin Cajun First Down". While not perfect, its 100 times better than "Another _____ First Down." That was unacceptable, and amateurish. Either break the rules, or substitute another one of our names.

    Or before the game starts have the PA announcer come on and explain what's going on. "Cajun Fan's, the Sunbelt Conference and ULM have asked us not to say "Louisiana First Down" tonight. And being that we are polite Southerners, we will oblige. But you dont have to be polite, in fact for every Cajun's first down, we want you to be impolite. Loudly let our friends at ULM and the Sunbelt know who we are. Thank you and have a pleasant evening."

    But, that would require some stones, and it looks like our administration is currently lacking a pair. Last night was a sad moment for "The Fight for the Name". In our own house...just sad. If we cant call ourselves what we want at our own field, then we are losing this fight. This even has me considering dropping my RCAF donation down a level because of it.


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    The rope hit the ground yesterday. It was a debacle on and off the field!


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    Embarrassing. Joseph Savoie is a nutless coward, and tomorrow morning, on my agenda is sending him an email stating such.

    I am also tempted to submit a guest editorial to the Advertiser.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer58 View Post
    Worse yet, Coach, it was not just the PA announcer who was stifled. J1M was not in attendance last night because TJoe instructed him to wear boxers rather than his thong. Apparently Bruno stated that he wears a thong and is incensed that J1M wears a thong in violation of the secret partnership he made with The Fossil.
    I should have just pulled my thong down to my ankles and bent over... T-Joe did.

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    That game was an embarassment!! Playing like that against sub-par competition makes me question the motivation i have to purchase bowl tickets


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    Quote Originally Posted by basinbear View Post
    Yes, our Administration did make a massive mistake last night by muzzling the PA announcer. The President lost a lot of cred with the Alumni and fans.
    I'm angry over this crawfish job because you don't think for one second the players didn't notice? That was almost as damaging on many fronts as Dr. Ray's impersonation of the Israelites wandering for decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timlan2057 View Post
    I was really motivated about leading the charge on Student Government towards getting a referendum for a student athletic fee of 50-100 dollars per semester put on the Spring election docket.
    I admire this big time....one HUGE recommendation. Don't do as specific dollars (50-100), do %%%%%%%%% of tuition. As tuition rises, the athletics fee will grow in proportion to tuition. Otherwise, as a fixed amount it never adjust for inflation and you have to do this over & over every few years. Also a small %.....let's say 5%. Sounds fairly harmless, smaller than any sales tax. In reality you will accomplish your goal for today and future generations.

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    In the Battle for a Name, last night we waved the white flag.


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    In the words of the great philosopher Rick Flair, to be the man, you gotta beat the man. You want Louisiana, then we gotta own anyone in Louisiana not named LSU. The next 12 months gives us a chance to beat Tulane, Southern, tech, and Monroe. Scoreboard was not a big deal at all but I did not like the first down chant. I disagree with the guy who said use ragin Cajun first down. At least it gave the fans a reason to chant louisiana louder. We have to take care of business on field.


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