14,415

[Hammer58]

Only illustrates that we need to change the way we report our attendence. It seems everyone else is reporting tickets sold plus students attending while we are the only one's insisting on counting actual attendance. Why are we doing this?

Illustrates our need to get out of thus dump of a conference. We bring in these dregs that bring nothing to the conference who contribute little to nothing. Even at our worst in the Baldwin years we had better support than they showed yesterday. Yet the few fans they have on their message board consider us an overrated, middle of the road mid-major not worthy of being associated with the former GaTech night school.

[BirdofParadise]

By the end of the first quarter, I would estimate the attendance to be somewhere around 2500.

[basinbear]

Jay just kept on going about the Money that they had---from where??? Athletic fee?? When I compared the video of their school compared to our --I was VERY VERY upset---NO REASON for our not having something that compared to the one they put out---And again Who in the hell is responsible for it????

They have a huge student fee.....over 80% of their budget. Conferences don't give a damn about how you finance your Budget...only that you do.

[timlan2057]

What in the hell are conferences like the Suck Belt thinking by annexing these garbage programs? Because they have the "Atlanta Market"?? Georgia State isn't even worthy of being called an afterthought in the Atlanta market.

[Just1More]

What in the hell are conferences like the Suck Belt thinking by annexing these garbage programs? Because they have the "Atlanta Market"?? Georgia State isn't even worthy of being called an afterthought in the Atlanta market.

They have no choice but to go to the incubators for programs. I'm not really concerned that these programs report false "attendance" now that we have 25k to 30k routinely, and we don't have to lie about it. We are infinitely better off in that regard. The trouble is that even though we are winning right now, these teams with dismal attendance are competitive with us. And, we are still chained to a small athletic budget. Some of them have heftier budgets.

If we grow our budget to respectability, we will shake this nonsense. In parallel to our private system, I do wish we'd initiate student fees for athletics. I would even propose that UL develop a system that reimburses a portion of that fee upon graduation as an incentive for passage, and a reward for graduation. I don't have the space on here to explain it. What we need is some immediate, predictable infusion of money.

[Boomer]

They have no choice but to go to the incubators for programs. I'm not really concerned that these programs report false "attendance" now that we have 25k to 30k routinely, and we don't have to lie about it. We are infinitely better off in that regard. The trouble is that even though we are winning right now, these teams with dismal attendance are competitive with us. And, we are still chained to a small athletic budget. Some of them have heftier budgets.

If we grow our budget to respectability, we will shake this nonsense. In parallel to our private system, I do wish we'd initiate student fees for athletics. I would even propose that UL develop a system that reimburses a portion of that fee upon graduation as an incentive for passage, and a reward for graduation. I don't have the space on here to explain it. What we need is some immediate, predictable infusion of money.

-----OK --- you got some 'Splaining to do---interested in your idea--what is it!!!

[Bankruptcyman]

By the end of the first quarter, I would estimate the attendance to be somewhere around 2500.

OK Jay then why (or how) do they report over 14,000? We have got schools poo-pooing our attendance figures when actually they are grossly over stating their own. stAte gloats that they were the attendance leaders in the SBC last year. How did they count their attendance. Obviously any school can count their attendance any way they want. As a result because we count ACTUAL attendance our numbers look very unimpressive. We end up having to qualify and explain our numbers which end up being just silly. Why don't we count like everyone else so we compare apples to apples?

[timlan2057]

They have no choice but to go to the incubators for programs. I'm not really concerned that these programs report false "attendance" now that we have 25k to 30k routinely, and we don't have to lie about it. We are infinitely better off in that regard. The trouble is that even though we are winning right now, these teams with dismal attendance are competitive with us. And, we are still chained to a small athletic budget. Some of them have heftier budgets.

If we grow our budget to respectability, we will shake this nonsense. In parallel to our private system, I do wish we'd initiate student fees for athletics. I would even propose that UL develop a system that reimburses a portion of that fee upon graduation as an incentive for passage, and a reward for graduation. I don't have the space on here to explain it. What we need is some immediate, predictable infusion of money.

I'm all for this. As a graduate student, I thought we paid an athletic fee already, among all the fees we pay. I just looked and was astounded that we don't.

I think tacking on a 50 dollar athletic fee to the one thousand dollars or so in fees a UL student pays each semester would be one that is justified.

I'm on UL Student Government. I'm going to see about introducing legislation for a student referendum on this. I bet it passes.

[Hammer58]

I'm all for this. As a graduate student, I thought we paid an athletic fee already, among all the fees we pay. I just looked and was astounded that we don't.

I think tacking on a 50 dollar athletic fee to the one thousand dollars or so in fees a UL student pays each semester would be one that is justified.

I'm on UL Student Government. I'm going to see about introducing legislation for a student referendum on this. I bet it passes.

A selling point would be if they enjoyed the success we've had under Hud they need to pas the fee so that we can help lay him and assistant coaches.

BTW, I don't think $50 is enough but I understand more might be a hard sell. How about a gradually escalating fee increasing $50 per semester every year until a reasonable cap that puts us on par with the student fees of schools in conferences where we want to be (not where we are currently stuck).

Good luck with your efforts.

[SlappyCajun]

The attendance figure included everyone who could see the exterior of the Georgia Dome as well.

[Just1More]

-----OK --- you got some 'Splaining to do---interested in your idea--what is it!!!

I don't want to go into detail on this forum. I need to talk to a couple of people at UL about the viability of it. I'd be a little surprised if they weren't already exploring some similar concepts.

The fee aspect is straightforward. Those rules are not challenged. All I can say is that the other end of it involves RCAF. It does not involve any legal sidestepping and it would be transparent to all. It requires the concept of fee investment having an identifiable future return on investment to students (graduates). I believe this already exists for students (graduates). But, I think my system of ROI can help an incoming student comprehend it in more than an intrinsic value. My system also produces many more residual, self perpetuating, benefits to the university. It closes some gaps between students, alumni and the community and makes RCAF a very healthy system.

[Just1More]

A selling point would be if they enjoyed the success we've had under Hud they need to pas the fee so that we can help lay him and assistant coaches.

BTW, I don't think $50 is enough but I understand more might be a hard sell. How about a gradually escalating fee increasing $50 per semester every year until a reasonable cap that puts us on par with the student fees of schools in conferences where we want to be (not where we are currently stuck).

Good luck with your efforts.

My concept involves a max fee imposed at the first vote, with a proportioned ROI earned over a 5 year span, with the max ROI going to the fully vested 5 year graduate. My website for enrollment will cost little, will not launch until it's tested for security, will work from day one, won't attempt to dupe the enrollee, and it will not require I lie or change the rules on majority vote to sell it.