The Book 2008 Football

[RaginFan2]

I remember the days when we would beat Southern Miss and didn't have to worry about what things we had to do to win. We used to be on the same level as USM, Tulane, Memphis, Tulsa and the like. I want to go back to days like that. How to beat USM? Win the turnover battle, play sound defense & avoid 3rd and long.

While I think there have been many times in our FB history where we have been very competitive with Southern Miss, our W-L record has never been very good against them. We've had numerous close losses (along with with a number of blow-outs), but darn few W's. I do remember beating them, but your implication was we used to (at one time) beat them (or any of those teams) regularly is wrong, with the exception of Tulsa and East Carolina. However, I do agree with you that we used to be more on par with the likes of those teams than we have been in the past decade or so.

[CajunNation]

While I think there have been many times in our FB history where we have been very competitive with Southern Miss, our W-L record has never been very good against them. We've had numerous close losses (along with with a number of blow-outs), but darn few W's. I do remember beating them, but your implication was we used to (at one time) beat them (or any of those teams) regularly is wrong, with the exception of Tulsa and East Carolina. However, I do agree with you that we used to be more on par with the likes of those teams than we have been in the past decade or so.

RICE

'82-89---3-1 record


EAST CAROLINA

'77-'90---6-4 record


TULSA

'77-'92---5-4 record


MEMPHIS

all time 4-9 record, but

'84-96---4-5 record


TULANE

all time 4-20 record, but

'83-95---4-5 record


SOUTHERN MISS

all time 11-38-1 record, but

'82-93---4-6 record


What can be gleamed from this? Well, for one thing, it shows that from the beginning of FBS play in 1982 to the mid-90's, UL was a legit, competitve FBS program.

I also believe that for most of the next decade after the mid 90's we were not a legit, competitive FBS program. The reason for that is not that these other programs greatly improved their programs and we couldn't keep up. The reason for this is that WE QUIT TRYING on an administrative level.

That's a huge difference, and Cajun fans have a right to be angry about it.

The fact is that we DID beat some of these programs regularly and were even with others, and now that the main obstacle to our return to this level of play has been removed, I wholeheartedly expect UL football to get back to where we once were.

[Zeebart21]

RICE

'82-89---3-1 record


EAST CAROLINA

'77-'90---6-4 record


TULSA

'77-'92---5-4 record


MEMPHIS

all time 4-9 record, but

'84-96---4-5 record


TULANE

all time 4-20 record, but

'83-95---4-5 record


SOUTHERN MISS

all time 11-38-1 record, but

'82-93---4-6 record


What can be gleamed from this? Well, for one thing, it shows that from the beginning of FBS play in 1982 to the mid-90's, UL was a legit, competitve FBS program.

I also believe that for most of the next decade after the mid 90's we were not a legit, competitive FBS program. The reason for that is not that these other programs greatly improved their programs and we couldn't keep up. The reason for this is that WE QUIT TRYING on an administrative level.

That's a huge difference, and Cajun fans have a right to be angry about it.

The fact is that we DID beat some of these programs regularly and were even with others, and now that the main obstacle to our return to this level of play has been removed, I wholeheartedly expect UL football to get back to where we once were.

Hey!!! Maybe we can have Doc A do another victory lap around Cajun Field this fall???? you know...just for old times sake!!!

You were a great one, DOC!!! Thanks for the memories!

[RaginFan2]

RICE

'82-89---3-1 record


EAST CAROLINA

'77-'90---6-4 record


TULSA

'77-'92---5-4 record


MEMPHIS

all time 4-9 record, but

'84-96---4-5 record


TULANE

all time 4-20 record, but

'83-95---4-5 record


SOUTHERN MISS

all time 11-38-1 record, but

'82-93---4-6 record


What can be gleamed from this? Well, for one thing, it shows that from the beginning of FBS play in 1982 to the mid-90's, UL was a legit, competitve FBS program.

I also believe that for most of the next decade after the mid 90's we were not a legit, competitive FBS program. The reason for that is not that these other programs greatly improved their programs and we couldn't keep up. The reason for this is that WE QUIT TRYING on an administrative level.

That's a huge difference, and Cajun fans have a right to be angry about it.

The fact is that we DID beat some of these programs regularly and were even with others, and now that the main obstacle to our return to this level of play has been removed, I wholeheartedly expect UL football to get back to where we once were.

Well I agree with you that we are down from what we were a decade or so ago. And that we have a right to be unhappy with the current status quo. But I don't think a 5-4 or 4-5 record in an arbitrarily varying window can be considered "regularly beating" those teams. I do think it means being very competitive with them. BTW, when I looked back at USM series (thanks to SpreadEagle), I noticed we beat USM the first 7 games of the series, only allowing a TOTAL of 13 points. However, since then they have a 38-4-1 record against us. That leads me to think that this season we will give them all they want, but succumb at the end. However it goes, I plan to be at Roberts Stadium to see it. I think everything is in place for us to give them a helluva game.

[CajunNation]

But I don't think a 5-4 or 4-5 record in an arbitrarily varying window can be considered "regularly beating" those teams.

I said "some" of these caliber teams. Consider our record versus these teams:

RICE
COLORADO STATE
UNLV
TULSA
FRESNO STATE
EAST CAROLINA

...for these years:

'77-'90---21-8 record

You can call it whatever you like, but that's more than just being competitive.

I think what the other poster was getting at is that for a couple of decades, Cajun fans could go into a game with any of the schools we've been talking about in this thread and expect to if not win it, at least play a good competitve game. We didn't sit around and discuss ways we could somehow surprise them and steal it.


The mindset back then was the same mindset we have today in regards to our conference mates. Although, we haven't done a very good job in this regard either lately .



As for the USM game this season, if our pony is doing its "one trick" very well, we have a chance. If not, it could be a long night.

[Zeebart21]

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-...dds/las-vegas/

[MetryCajun]

Are you seeing this CajunZ1?

[billbeck451]

I can't believe that lines are out on these games this far out

And were getting a lot more love then ULM and N Texas are getting on there lines.

[CajunZ1]

_ Are you seeing this CajunZ1? _

My guess was 11, yours was 17, correct?

I believe we have a draw! (Unless of course we agree to Price is Right rules... )

[MetryCajun]

_ My guess was 11, yours was 17, correct?

I believe we have a draw! (Unless of course we agree to Price is Right rules... ) _

Ummm. I said 14. Now bow down before me!

[RaginDave]

From ESPN.com

Southern Miss reserve running back Tory Harrison remains suspended following a March 11 arrest for marijuana possession. Harrison, expected to be Damion Fletcher's primary backup following the indefinite suspension of Antwain Easterling, was charged with possession of marijuana (more than one ounce) with intent to distribute. A police spokeswoman told the Hattiesburg American that Harrison had 5 pounds of marijuana at the time of his arrest.

Harrison started two games last season for the Golden Eagles, rushing for 393 yards and five touchdowns. With both Harrison and Easterling out, sophomore V.J. Floyd moves into the primary backup role.

[CajunZ1]

_ Ummm. I said 14. Now bow down before me! _