The Book 2008 Football

[DestinCajun]

_ It's not my opinion. It's a fact.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc08.htm _

The "facts" say different. At the end of the 2007 season, the SBC was right up there near to Cooza and above the MAC.
10 SOUTHERN (AA)= 60.50 59.92 ( 11) 8
11. CONFERENCE USA (A) = 59.54 60.06 ( 10) 12
12 COLONIAL (AA)= 59.52 59.33 ( 12) 12
13 SUN BELT (A) = 59.19 59.25 ( 13) 8
14 MID-AMERICAN (A) = 58.37 58.51 ( 14) 13

What's the matter with you people, can't tell plain facts from Miss BS'ing. Hey, if we win this game please come back and explain it to us with the facts. That I want to see.

[GoGold]

_ Louisville, Cinci, and USF built CUSA into the power that it now. USM played a role but don't kid yourself. USM is not and has not been the class of CUSA for some time. Respectable program for sure but no where near what you think they are. If they were then you would hear much more about them, kind of like Boise, Utah, Frsno, Nevada, Hawaii in the west an ECU and UCF in your own conference. _

Good grief man, stick with what you know.

Cincy was average in CUSA, winning one CoChampionship. USF played .500 ball during their TWO years in CUSA.

USM was the flagship in CUSA's first four years, during the second four years it was Lousiville although we managed to win a Championship during that time. Since the raid its been UCF and Tulsa. Over the entire time Houston and Tulane have also helped.

[GoGold]

_ The "facts" say different. At the end of the 2007 season, the SBC was right up there near to Cooza and above the MAC.
10 SOUTHERN (AA)= 60.50 59.92 ( 11) 8
11. CONFERENCE USA (A) = 59.54 60.06 ( 10) 12
12 COLONIAL (AA)= 59.52 59.33 ( 12) 12
13 SUN BELT (A) = 59.19 59.25 ( 13) 8
14 MID-AMERICAN (A) = 58.37 58.51 ( 14) 13

What's the matter with you people, can't tell plain facts from Miss BS'ing. Hey, if we win this game please come back and explain it to us with the facts. That I want to see. _

And if you lose the game?

[GoEagles]

The "facts" say different. At the end of the 2007 season, the SBC was right up there near to Cooza and above the MAC.
10 SOUTHERN (AA)= 60.50 59.92 ( 11) 8
11. CONFERENCE USA (A) = 59.54 60.06 ( 10) 12
12 COLONIAL (AA)= 59.52 59.33 ( 12) 12
13 SUN BELT (A) = 59.19 59.25 ( 13) 8
14 MID-AMERICAN (A) = 58.37 58.51 ( 14) 13

What's the matter with you people, can't tell plain facts from Miss BS'ing. Hey, if we win this game please come back and explain it to us with the facts. That I want to see.

Old news. The latest...

1 SOUTHEASTERN (A) = 80.62 80.53 ( 1) 12
2 PAC-10 (A) = 79.82 79.98 ( 2) 10
3 BIG 12 (A) = 78.10 77.78 ( 3) 12
4 ATLANTIC COAST (A) = 77.37 76.88 ( 6) 12
5 BIG EAST (A) = 77.25 77.25 ( 4) 8
6 BIG TEN (A) = 76.26 76.89 ( 5) 11
7 MOUNTAIN WEST (A) = 71.60 71.66 ( 7) 9
8 I-A INDEPENDENTS (A) = 65.21 65.38 ( 8) 4
9 CONFERENCE USA (A) = 63.16 63.31 ( 10) 12
10 WESTERN ATHLETIC (A) = 62.90 63.64 ( 9) 9
11 MID-AMERICAN (A) = 60.78 60.17 ( 11) 13
12 COLONIAL (AA)= 58.51 58.34 ( 12) 12
13 MISSOURI VALLEY (AA)= 57.99 56.57 ( 14) 9
14 SUN BELT (A) = 57.90 57.85 ( 13) 8
15 SOUTHERN (AA)= 53.46 53.20 ( 15) 9
16 BIG SKY (AA)= 51.19 51.15 ( 16) 9
17 GREAT WEST (AA)= 50.84 49.83 ( 17) 5
18 IVY LEAGUE (AA)= 48.41 48.26 ( 18) 8
19 SOUTHLAND (AA)= 47.48 47.58 ( 19) 8
20 PATRIOT LEAGUE (AA)= 46.10 44.72 ( 20) 7
21 BIG SOUTH (AA)= 39.64 39.69 ( 22) 6
22 OHIO VALLEY (AA)= 39.60 39.79 ( 21) 9
23 MID-EASTERN (AA)= 38.35 38.39 ( 23) 10
24 SOUTHWESTERN (AA)= 37.53 37.27 ( 24) 10
25 NORTHEAST (AA)= 30.95 30.93 ( 25) 8
26 PIONEER (AA)= 29.17 29.28 ( 26) 9
27 I-AA INDEPENDENTS (AA)= 21.22 21.67 ( 27) 6
28 ***UNRATED*** (**)= -90.00 -90.00 ( 28) 1

[TuffGuy84]

Old news. The latest...

1 SOUTHEASTERN (A) = 80.62 80.53 ( 1) 12
2 PAC-10 (A) = 79.82 79.98 ( 2) 10
3 BIG 12 (A) = 78.10 77.78 ( 3) 12
4 ATLANTIC COAST (A) = 77.37 76.88 ( 6) 12
5 BIG EAST (A) = 77.25 77.25 ( 4) 8
6 BIG TEN (A) = 76.26 76.89 ( 5) 11
7 MOUNTAIN WEST (A) = 71.60 71.66 ( 7) 9
8 I-A INDEPENDENTS (A) = 65.21 65.38 ( 8) 4
9 CONFERENCE USA (A) = 63.16 63.31 ( 10) 12
10 WESTERN ATHLETIC (A) = 62.90 63.64 ( 9) 9
11 MID-AMERICAN (A) = 60.78 60.17 ( 11) 13
12 COLONIAL (AA)= 58.51 58.34 ( 12) 12
13 MISSOURI VALLEY (AA)= 57.99 56.57 ( 14) 9
14 SUN BELT (A) = 57.90 57.85 ( 13) 8
15 SOUTHERN (AA)= 53.46 53.20 ( 15) 9
16 BIG SKY (AA)= 51.19 51.15 ( 16) 9
17 GREAT WEST (AA)= 50.84 49.83 ( 17) 5
18 IVY LEAGUE (AA)= 48.41 48.26 ( 18) 8
19 SOUTHLAND (AA)= 47.48 47.58 ( 19) 8
20 PATRIOT LEAGUE (AA)= 46.10 44.72 ( 20) 7
21 BIG SOUTH (AA)= 39.64 39.69 ( 22) 6
22 OHIO VALLEY (AA)= 39.60 39.79 ( 21) 9
23 MID-EASTERN (AA)= 38.35 38.39 ( 23) 10
24 SOUTHWESTERN (AA)= 37.53 37.27 ( 24) 10
25 NORTHEAST (AA)= 30.95 30.93 ( 25) 8
26 PIONEER (AA)= 29.17 29.28 ( 26) 9
27 I-AA INDEPENDENTS (AA)= 21.22 21.67 ( 27) 6
28 ***UNRATED*** (**)= -90.00 -90.00 ( 28) 1

What part of these are predictions don't you get? If your gonna really go off of a preseason poll, then I'm gonna make my own preseason poll and rank the sunbelt #1 in the world. Those ratings mean nothing until maybe about halfway through the season. I mean if thats the case, why even play the games, the RPI would tell us before the season who the best is.

[cajunlove]

_ Old news. The latest...

1 SOUTHEASTERN (A) = 80.62 80.53 ( 1) 12
2 PAC-10 (A) = 79.82 79.98 ( 2) 10
3 BIG 12 (A) = 78.10 77.78 ( 3) 12
4 ATLANTIC COAST (A) = 77.37 76.88 ( 6) 12
5 BIG EAST (A) = 77.25 77.25 ( 4) 8
6 BIG TEN (A) = 76.26 76.89 ( 5) 11
7 MOUNTAIN WEST (A) = 71.60 71.66 ( 7) 9
8 I-A INDEPENDENTS (A) = 65.21 65.38 ( 8) 4
9 CONFERENCE USA (A) = 63.16 63.31 ( 10) 12
10 WESTERN ATHLETIC (A) = 62.90 63.64 ( 9) 9
11 MID-AMERICAN (A) = 60.78 60.17 ( 11) 13
12 COLONIAL (AA)= 58.51 58.34 ( 12) 12
13 MISSOURI VALLEY (AA)= 57.99 56.57 ( 14) 9
14 SUN BELT (A) = 57.90 57.85 ( 13) 8
15 SOUTHERN (AA)= 53.46 53.20 ( 15) 9
16 BIG SKY (AA)= 51.19 51.15 ( 16) 9
17 GREAT WEST (AA)= 50.84 49.83 ( 17) 5
18 IVY LEAGUE (AA)= 48.41 48.26 ( 18) 8
19 SOUTHLAND (AA)= 47.48 47.58 ( 19) 8
20 PATRIOT LEAGUE (AA)= 46.10 44.72 ( 20) 7
21 BIG SOUTH (AA)= 39.64 39.69 ( 22) 6
22 OHIO VALLEY (AA)= 39.60 39.79 ( 21) 9
23 MID-EASTERN (AA)= 38.35 38.39 ( 23) 10
24 SOUTHWESTERN (AA)= 37.53 37.27 ( 24) 10
25 NORTHEAST (AA)= 30.95 30.93 ( 25) 8
26 PIONEER (AA)= 29.17 29.28 ( 26) 9
27 I-AA INDEPENDENTS (AA)= 21.22 21.67 ( 27) 6
28 ***UNRATED*** (**)= -90.00 -90.00 ( 28) 1 _

The point was that the "worst conference in America" had a winning record against your conference over the past two years. Bring up whatever poll, ranking formula, or excuse that your like; the results will not change.

You reference the wins came against the "lower teams" in your conference. Please explain. Who are the "upper teams" in your conference? What determines such a classification? I can only speak to games that I'm aware of, and on that note, I remember that we beat Houston the year that they won your conference championship. Were they a "lower team" that year?

I'm sure that you have a nice program. And you're favored in this game. So why puff up so much and try to belittle our lowly little insignificant conference? Could it be that you're a little bit worried?

[DestinCajun]

And if you lose the game? _

It'll be short and sweet. The only fact that'll matter is the final score.

[GoGold]

_ Favre's pop wanted him to come here but we already had an option QB which is what Favre ran mostly in high school. We wanted him to be a safety and he decided to go to USM because he knew he wasn't going to be given a shot with Mitchell here.

BTW, he has 3 or 4 NFL records and made a good share of pro-bowls (not sure on how many) _

Thank you Mitchell, I guess.

The only option Favre had was Southern Miss, we were his only offer. We wanted him to play defense as well. But he wanted to be a QB, and started his first year last in the depth chart at that position. Of course that all changed in '87 against Tulane...

[cajun4life]

_ Good grief man, stick with what you know.

Cincy was average in CUSA, winning one CoChampionship. USF played .500 ball during their TWO years in CUSA.

USM was the flagship in CUSA's first four years, during the second four years it was Lousiville although we managed to win a Championship during that time. Since the raid its been UCF and Tulsa. Over the entire time Houston and Tulane have also helped. _

So what you are saying is you guys are to CUSA what North Texas is to the Belt? Get a grip dude, you guys are slightly better than we are. A MID LEVEL Mid Major.

[cajun4life]

_ Thank you Mitchell. _

You say thank you Mitchell and we say thank you Favre. To each school these two players define the programs. The main difference is your administration and community stepped up to the plate and did everything that it takes in order to succeed in football at the mid major level. While our administration did everything in their power to keep us from becoming a sports school.

[DestinCajun]

What part of these are predictions don't you get? If your gonna really go off of a preseason poll, then I'm gonna make my own preseason poll and rank the sunbelt #1 in the world. Those ratings mean nothing until maybe about halfway through the season. I mean if thats the case, why even play the games, the RPI would tell us before the season who the best is. _

Pretty obvious, huh? Hell, just cancel the season based on the preseason predicitons. That's why I showed the So Miss fan the final conference Sagarain rankings from 2007 that factually prove the SBC was not "the "worst" in the nation.

Sweet J, I'm thinking these eagles hatched out yesterday.

[DestinCajun]

If we don't make a bowl game this year everyone will be calling for bustle to go. If we have to keep him around because of the contract there will be no more fan support. Hopefully we make a bowl and everything will be ok for Bustle and UL Football. _

We could be really good and Coach could have done a fantastic job and we could still miss a bowl. Skat happens. Look at Troy last season. They just got left out.

[4LSU]

_ Sure it was. I knew our schedule was stronger. _

"You guys came in at 83 and the Cajuns 88."

When you right, you right.

I hope it's a good game, no injuries, and all return to their indivilual abodes safely.

[GoGold]

_ So what you are saying is you guys are to CUSA what North Texas is to the Belt? Get a grip dude, you guys are slightly better than we are. A MID LEVEL Mid Major. _

No, what I am saying if you know nothing about the subject you should just pass, rather than making yourself look stupid. Of course you could always explain how USF build CUSA and make me look stupid....

North Texas.....you are kidding me right? Sure they owned the SBC but what did they do for the SBC nationally? Did they finish ranked in ANY poll? They won 1 New Orleans Bowl, against Cincy in thier CoChampionship year, you know the Cincy team you claim build CUSA.

But your last statement is really pretty far out there. We are slightly better than you? We are both mid level mid majors??? Well lets see....

YEAR USM UofLa
1998 #35 #114
1999 #14 #147
2000 #40 #188
2001 #60 #148
2002 #68 #124
2003 #51 #136
2004 #73 #122
2005 #64 #119
2006 #52 #124
2007 #88 #137

The numbers suggest otherwise.

[4LSU]

_ Seinfeld?

"Stuff does happen.

The basic problem with the BCS is that it is unAmerican. It's an economic caste system designed to exclude some and allow others to hoard all the gold. Americans use to fight those things.

No, I'm like Fun and his fair weather fans, I don't want to see us in the BCS. I'd prefer the whole system be reformed somehow to make it into what it should be. Of course, you would then have to pinch me and wake me out of that dream becasue that's what it would be." _

Yes, it do. You only have to ask Tulane, Fla. St, Miami, Fresno St, So. Fla, UConn and on and on. I know that list is a mixed bad of BCS and non-BCS, but they all found some gold in their football programs which was not there at one time.

“…designed to exclude some and allow others to hoard all the gold.”

Look, the BCS is not perfect, but it has been very, very good to the team I support. So not surprisingly, I will cut it more slack than you. I will say that without the BCS we don't get some of the games which have taken place lately. Such as USC and Texas and others. So, it can't be all bad, can it? And before the BCS, was there a system in place which allowed the “gold” to be shared?

Rather than fair weather fans, I prefer to call them fans seeking entertainment value for their dollar. They are fans who have expectations when they open their wallet or take time out of their life to attend anything and that includes sports events. When those expectations are not fulfilled, they chose to find another way to be entertained.
It’s that way in all avenues of life and really it shouldn’t be that hard to understand or accept. Imo

And good luck in filtering out the good from the bad when you become more successful and Cajun football has them hanging from the nose bleed seats. Seems that would be bout as possible as allowing into our lungs only the particles we want when we breathe. A noble mission and no harm in trying, but............

Have a safe trip and bring home some roasted bird.