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  1. Default Re: CAJUNS 14 point underdogs in week 1

    If anything, bookies would probably want to have lower point spread than should be the case because the average casual college football fan still thinks that the sunbelt is a much worse conference than C-USA.

    This line will likely go down to about 12 before kickoff.

    It is crazy line though. Playing at USM historically is a really tough game against a borderline top 25 to top 40 team, but in present day it is not any more or less challenging than traveling to Middle Tennessee. Cajuns will have to play well to win and unfortunately are likely to lose, based on the past 1.5 year of mediocre play, but 14 points is just silly.

    If Cajuns were to win this game by 10 points, I would not at all be sold on them having a good year. USM would be very competitive in sunbelt but could finish anywhere from 1st to 5th in sunbelt. Sunbelt is so underrated v C-USA. How many games will sunbelt teams have to win v C-USA before the conferences are considered at least close to equal footing. Here you have a predicted middle of the pack sunbelt team v predicted middle of the pack C-USA team. About even matchup but USM is at home so should be about -5 spread.


  2. #122

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiCajun32 View Post
    If anything, bookies would probably want to have lower point spread than should be the case because the average casual college football fan still thinks that the sunbelt is a much worse conference than C-USA.

    This line will likely go down to about 12 before kickoff.

    It is crazy line though. Playing at USM historically is a really tough game against a borderline top 25 to top 40 team, but in present day it is not any more or less challenging than traveling to Middle Tennessee. Cajuns will have to play well to win and unfortunately are likely to lose, based on the past 1.5 year of mediocre play, but 14 points is just silly.

    If Cajuns were to win this game by 10 points, I would not at all be sold on them having a good year. USM would be very competitive in sunbelt but could finish anywhere from 1st to 5th in sunbelt. Sunbelt is so underrated v C-USA. How many games will sunbelt teams have to win v C-USA before the conferences are considered at least close to equal footing. Here you have a predicted middle of the pack sunbelt team v predicted middle of the pack C-USA team. About even matchup but USM is at home so should be about -5 spread.
    A coaching change was made at USM because USM fans would not settle for 7 and 8 win seasons. Even so, USM has had 14 straight winning seasons and played in bowl games 10 out of the last 11 years. In the last
    ten games against Sun Belt teams, USM is 10-0. Lets compare MTSU to those stats.
    Also, USM had the number 37 recruiting class as ranked by Rivals last year. That was 20 spots ahead of the closest non-BCS team. As a matter of fact, DeAndre Brown, the five star receiver that LSU wanted so bad, was just cleared by the NCAA today and is fully qualified. How many five star receivers does MTSU have?
    Damien Fletcher will be the best running back your team sees next year and Gerald Mcrath will be the best defensive player your team sees next year. They are both pre-season CUSA offensive and defensive players of the year.

  3. Default Re: CAJUNS 14 point underdogs in week 1

    Sure, going back 10 to 15 years, USM has accomplished a tremendous amount and I don't see why they can't get back to that level of success in near future. However, the situation is what it is during the past two seasons, with sunbelt beating C-USA teams routinely and not just the bottom echelon C-USA teams. If mediocre Cajuns team two years ago can go to Houston and win, why not a hopefully better team win at USM this year? FAU blew out Memphis in bowl game last year. The year before, Troy blew out Rice in bowl.

    14 points is just too high, unless you are going to put an all star team together from past 15 years and play it on a computer or something. We are talking about the '08 teams though and frankly, USM is not predicted to do very well this year. Neither are the Cajuns (although we fans have reason to hope for better :-). So if predictions are in ball park, then this is a matchup of middle of the pack C-USA v midde of the pack sunbelt. And the two conferences have played even over the past two years (actually, sunbelt may have winning record against C-USA over past two years, but not sure).

    If Cajuns beat USM and lost to Midd Tenn I would not be surprised. Same goes for vice versa. MT is just an example. Same goes for FAU, Troy, Ark St., ULM. All these teams would go toe to to with USM this year, no matter what USM did in the past 15 years.


  4. Default Re: CAJUNS 14 point underdogs in week 1

    Quote Originally Posted by SpreadEagle View Post
    _ A coaching change was made at USM because USM fans would not settle for 7 and 8 win seasons. Even so, USM has had 14 straight winning seasons and played in bowl games 10 out of the last 11 years. In the last
    ten games against Sun Belt teams, USM is 10-0. Lets compare MTSU to those stats.
    Also, USM had the number 37 recruiting class as ranked by Rivals last year. That was 20 spots ahead of the closest non-BCS team. As a matter of fact, DeAndre Brown, the five star receiver that LSU wanted so bad, was just cleared by the NCAA today and is fully qualified. How many five star receivers does MTSU have?
    Damien Fletcher will be the best running back your team sees next year and Gerald Mcrath will be the best defensive player your team sees next year. They are both pre-season CUSA offensive and defensive players of the year. _
    The best running back UL Cajuns see this year is in practice when TF runs the ball...

  5. #125

    Default Re: CAJUNS 14 point underdogs in week 1

    Quote Originally Posted by SpreadEagle View Post
    A coaching change was made at USM because USM fans would not settle for 7 and 8 win seasons. Even so, USM has had 14 straight winning seasons and played in bowl games 10 out of the last 11 years. In the last
    ten games against Sun Belt teams, USM is 10-0. Lets compare MTSU to those stats.
    Also, USM had the number 37 recruiting class as ranked by Rivals last year. That was 20 spots ahead of the closest non-BCS team. As a matter of fact, DeAndre Brown, the five star receiver that LSU wanted so bad, was just cleared by the NCAA today and is fully qualified. How many five star receivers does MTSU have?
    Damien Fletcher will be the best running back your team sees next year and Gerald Mcrath will be the best defensive player your team sees next year. They are both pre-season CUSA offensive and defensive players of the year.
    Didn't Fletcher tear his ACL? and his two primary back ups get dismissed from the team?

  6. #126

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    Didn't Fletcher tear his ACL? and his two primary back ups get dismissed from the team?
    No. Fletcher has never had a serious injury. Here is an article on him that just ran in the Biloxi newspaper this summer......
    You are correct on his two backups from last season. I feel really good about his backups this year though. We shall see how they work out this year.

    http://www.sunherald.com/238/story/675666.html

  7. #127

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiCajun32 View Post
    Sure, going back 10 to 15 years, USM has accomplished a tremendous amount and I don't see why they can't get back to that level of success in near future. However, the situation is what it is during the past two seasons, with sunbelt beating C-USA teams routinely and not just the bottom echelon C-USA teams. If mediocre Cajuns team two years ago can go to Houston and win, why not a hopefully better team win at USM this year? FAU blew out Memphis in bowl game last year. The year before, Troy blew out Rice in bowl.

    14 points is just too high, unless you are going to put an all star team together from past 15 years and play it on a computer or something. We are talking about the '08 teams though and frankly, USM is not predicted to do very well this year. Neither are the Cajuns (although we fans have reason to hope for better :-). So if predictions are in ball park, then this is a matchup of middle of the pack C-USA v midde of the pack sunbelt. And the two conferences have played even over the past two years (actually, sunbelt may have winning record against C-USA over past two years, but not sure).

    If Cajuns beat USM and lost to Midd Tenn I would not be surprised. Same goes for vice versa. MT is just an example. Same goes for FAU, Troy, Ark St., ULM. All these teams would go toe to to with USM this year, no matter what USM did in the past 15 years.
    You are correct in that USM football had fallen off in the last few years. Even still we beat the Sun Belt champs convincingly in the N.O. Bowl in 04 and 05.
    USM fans saw Jeff Bower becoming complacent with winning seasons and bowl trips. That wasn't going to cut it in Hattiesburg. His replacement, Larry Fedora, is a ball of fire and has lit a fire under USM fans. It could take him this year to get his offense in, but when it clicks it will be very good. Fedora's job is to return USM football to championship football and even higher. I think he is the man to do it. ULL is playing him at the best time possible time, his first game. I expect a close game.

  8. Default Re: CAJUNS 14 point underdogs in week 1

    Quote Originally Posted by SpreadEagle View Post
    _ You are correct in that USM football had fallen off in the last few years. Even still we beat the Sun Belt champs convincingly in the N.O. Bowl in 04 and 05.
    USM fans saw Jeff Bower becoming complacent with winning seasons and bowl trips. That wasn't going to cut it in Hattiesburg. His replacement, Larry Fedora, is a ball of fire and has lit a fire under USM fans. It could take him this year to get his offense in, but when it clicks it will be very good. Fedora's job is to return USM football to championship football and even higher. I think he is the man to do it. ULL is playing him at the best time possible time, his first game. I expect a close game. _
    I agree that even just two years ago even the 1st place sunbelt team could not really play competitely with USM, even though USM was not having its best years then (USM I know was not happy wth two NO bowls in a row). But if USM would have been to the last two NO bowls it would have been much more difficult to beat Troy '06 and FAU '07.

    With that said, USM is the envy of all non BCS teams in the talent rich south. In my opinion, your program is stellar and I have always wondered why the Cajuns could not do the same all these years, or even come close. I actually went to UF for undergrad and I remember when USM came to town my senior year in '97. It was a close game and even though the gators were ranked #1 at the time, even the casual fans were aware of USM and that it would be great to just get out of that game with a W. I had never seen the Gators fans give a smaller program such respect going into an opening game like that. Sure enough it was a competitive 20-6 game and could have been a lot closer. Year after year, USM played toe to toe with the very best teams in the country. I hope you guys are able to get to that level again soon, as it is great for all the non BCS programs in the south, including Cajuns.

    For this game, I think USM will win (although I think the Cajuns can win) and both teams will be improved from last year, but still have problems and have dissapointing seasons (6-7 wins for USM and 4-5 wins for Cajuns). I think USM will win by about a touchdown, so the 14 point spread is just out of line. I think the game will be close and even if it were out of hand, the Cajuns have enough offense to score enough to get within 14.

  9. Default Re: CAJUNS 14 point underdogs in week 1

    Quote Originally Posted by SpreadEagle View Post
    _ You are correct in that USM football had fallen off in the last few years. Even still we beat the Sun Belt champs convincingly in the N.O. Bowl in 04 and 05.
    USM fans saw Jeff Bower becoming complacent with winning seasons and bowl trips. That wasn't going to cut it in Hattiesburg. His replacement, Larry Fedora, is a ball of fire and has lit a fire under USM fans. It could take him this year to get his offense in, but when it clicks it will be very good. Fedora's job is to return USM football to championship football and even higher. I think he is the man to do it. ULL is playing him at the best time possible time, his first game. I expect a close game. _
    I saw Fedora coach at UF. He is a hell of an offensive coach.

  10. #130

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiCajun32 View Post
    I saw Fedora coach UF. He is a hell of an offensive coach.
    Thanks for your kind words in your two posts. USM fans are excited about Fedora. He is one fireball personality and it is contagious. Here is a video from a fan posted on youtube that kind of expresses how USM fans feel with Fedora coming in. We are proud to be hosting your Cajuns in his first game and also the first game in our newly expanded stadium...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suTsE...eature=related

  11. UL Football Bustle and Desormeaux prepare for Sun Belt Media Days


     Michael Desormeaux took a break from a voluntary offseason workout early last week, his body dripping with sweat. As his UL football teammates continued the drill behind him, the senior quarterback described all the work the Ragin' Cajuns have put in over the past few months preparing for the 2008 season.

    "This summer has been really exciting for us," said the New Iberia native. "But we're ready to start playing."

    While college football season starts in late August, the Cajuns will move one step closer to getting on the field today as players, coaches and media members arrive in New Orleans for the Sun Belt Conference Football Media Days.

    The rest of the story

    Joshua Parrott • jparrott@theadvertiser.com • July 21, 2008

    Homes SO Clean

  12. #132

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpreadEagle View Post
    You are correct in that USM football had fallen off in the last few years. Even still we beat the Sun Belt champs convincingly in the N.O. Bowl in 04 and 05.
    USM fans saw Jeff Bower becoming complacent with winning seasons and bowl trips. That wasn't going to cut it in Hattiesburg. His replacement, Larry Fedora, is a ball of fire and has lit a fire under USM fans. It could take him this year to get his offense in, but when it clicks it will be very good. Fedora's job is to return USM football to championship football and even higher. I think he is the man to do it. ULL is playing him at the best time possible time, his first game. I expect a close game. _
    I'm not driving up to Hattiesburg to see UL lose this game. For the first time in quite awhile, I expect the Cajuns to win there.

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