Pic of the "new" St Mary street

[CajunJack55]

Don't know if they had headphones back then!!!! lol

I would imagine it would look something like this:

[cajunhawk]

I would imagine it would look something like this:

Balling out of control...

[CharlieK]

The next time I'm out on the roads (on a bike in a car or walking or running, whatever) and don't see a car breaking a traffic law will be the first. Cars, bikes, pedestrians....they all break as many traffic laws as they think they can get away with and not die and/or get a ticket. Nobody has patience for anybody else, and since cyclists tend to slow other folks down.....they catch the grief. I'd be willing to guess (since I'm not privy to Hawks data) that cyclist deaths/injuries come from a mixture of auto and cyclist error/inattention.

[cajunhawk]

The next time I'm out on the roads (on a bike in a car or walking or running, whatever) and don't see a car breaking a traffic law will be the first. Cars, bikes, pedestrians....they all break as many traffic laws as they think they can get away with and not die and/or get a ticket. Nobody has patience for anybody else, and since cyclists tend to slow other folks down.....they catch the grief. I'd be willing to guess (since I'm not privy to Hawks data) that cyclist deaths/injuries come from a mixture of auto and cyclist error/inattention.

This guy gave me the data...

[CajunRebel]

Prove.Me.Wrong. Until then...mother____ing bask.

If you insist:
http://m.bikeradar.com/us/news/artic...cidents-28489/

"Ed Beighe, who mans the Arizona bike blog Azbikelaw, crunched some numbers on fault from his state and found that 44 percent of fatalities from bike-car crashes in 2009 were determined to be the fault of the cyclist, while 56 percent were the fault of a motor vehicle driver. The most common collision was when a driver struck a cyclist from behind."

"Using police-reported crash data from 1986 to 1991, researchers found that motorists were at fault in approximately 83.5 percent of incidents, whereas bicyclists were at fault in only 16.5 percent of incidents."


I'll be happy to accept your apology :-)

[CajunT]

If you insist:
http://m.bikeradar.com/us/news/artic...cidents-28489/

"Ed Beighe, who mans the Arizona bike blog Azbikelaw, crunched some numbers on fault from his state and found that 44 percent of fatalities from bike-car crashes in 2009 were determined to be the fault of the cyclist, while 56 percent were the fault of a motor vehicle driver. The most common collision was when a driver struck a cyclist from behind."

"Using police-reported crash data from 1986 to 1991, researchers found that motorists were at fault in approximately 83.5 percent of incidents, whereas bicyclists were at fault in only 16.5 percent of incidents."


I'll be happy to accept your apology :-)

I'm not debating one way or the other, I'm sure the larger percentage probably lays at the feet of automobile drivers, especially when involving children. But seriously, this is what you are using to prove your point, stats from Arizona in 2009 and from 1986 to 1991? I would be willing to bet the older the cyclist, the closer those numbers are to shared responsibilty. It would be interesting in terms of debate how those numbers would break down according to age groups.

[CajunRebel]

Fair enough. The article I took the data from said it's hard to get an accurate number because it isn't really tracked by anyone, so I guess these isolated examples are the best the author could come up with and that's as far as I'm willing to look into it. It's not definitive, but it's more than enough to stick it to hawk and his assumptions, which was all I was really trying to accomplish in the first place :-).

[CharlieK]

This guy gave me the data...

I bet he did.

[moorecajun]

We don't need reflex cameras anywhere...what we have always needed is someone to contract out Mad Max type road crews that hunt people who don't know how to drive and get them off the road. Jacked up truck with a 5 foot tall man inside and bull nuts hanging from the trailer hitch...overturned in a ditch on fire after a dune buggy with assless chapp leather clad psychos are done with him. Stupid sorority girl texting in her honda civic with idiotic window chalk driving into other peoples lanes...once the Mad Max guys are done with her she will need a stay in Pineville. The person who cannot spare a second to look while changing lanes cause they are talking on their cell phone...EXTERMINATED!!! That big old Buick hooptie with the guy sitting so far back in the seat no one can even see him, with his trunk rattling like there is a wild board stuck inside...let's see how cool he is when a machete comes crashing through his roof as he is randomly over taken and sent careening into a vacant lot where unspeakable things are done to him for his crime against humanity.

They go in...they kill...no more talk. It shouldn't take too much money to get this thing started. Get with me and we can start this thing on the ground floor. It would sweep the country like wild fire. All the _______s on the road...vanquished. Think of how good everyone will drive knowing that if they ____ up...they will be sent to Barter Town. And we all know who runs Barter Town. This is such a good idea...who's with me?

I'm thinking I will just stay away from that intersection all together ... I don't try a left turn there but I also don't want anybody to think I did something wrong and take me out ... and then say, oops, wrong guy!

[Turbine]

Looks like they removed the pots (good move, they would not have lasted) added a bike lane and buffers.

I am not up on my arrow lingo, can someone explain?