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  1. #1489

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    Quote Originally Posted by TuffGuy84 View Post
    One was an incidental play in the game of baseball, one came with the possibility of ending a mans life. One is suspension, and the other is manslaughter. Baseball has its limits. Wanna plunk him and send a message, cool, but aim at a guys head and your literally threatening someone's life.
    Angels pitcher and manager were suspended for what happened Tuesday night. Issue is now behind us. Marisnick had an great game last night with big plays in the field and at the plate.

  2. #1490

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Angels pitcher and manager were suspended for what happened Tuesday night. Issue is now behind us. Marisnick had an great game last night with big plays in the field and at the plate.
    This! Once again people get emotional in the moment instead of sticking with the facts! Jake Marisnick is a guy that plays the game all out, often making highlight catches that are on ESPN. He's not known as a dirty player and never has been. He took the wrong angle on the path home and was correctly called out. The suspension was also the correct call for the violation. The play at the plate has always been part of the game and many of catchers have received similar injuries in the past, which is why the rule was changed. End of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    This! Once again people get emotional in the moment instead of sticking with the facts! Jake Marisnick is a guy that plays the game all out, often making highlight catches that are on ESPN. He's not known as a dirty player and never has been. He took the wrong angle on the path home and was correctly called out. The suspension was also the correct call for the violation. The play at the plate has always been part of the game and many of catchers have received similar injuries in the past, which is why the rule was changed. End of story.
    My sentiments exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunT View Post
    This! Once again people get emotional in the moment instead of sticking with the facts! Jake Marisnick is a guy that plays the game all out, often making highlight catches that are on ESPN. He's not known as a dirty player and never has been. He took the wrong angle on the path home and was correctly called out. The suspension was also the correct call for the violation. The play at the plate has always been part of the game and many of catchers have received similar injuries in the past, which is why the rule was changed. End of story.
    Marisnick Still deserves that green and purple bruise he will be sporting for the next week. Only bad part is that he turned his body so that that ball didn’t hit him squarely.

    If the pitch would have hit him as solid as his shoulder hit Luc’s face it would have bounced off of him back towards the mound and ended up 2-3 feet in front of the plate rather than rolling to the back stop.

  5. #1493

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    Quote Originally Posted by axg8750 View Post
    Marisnick Still deserves that green and purple bruise he will be sporting for the next week. Only bad part is that he turned his body so that that ball didn't hit him squarely.

    If the pitch would have hit him as solid as his shoulder hit Luc's face it would have bounced off of him back towards the mound and ended up 2-3 feet in front of the plate rather than rolling to the back stop.
    Are you really indicating you wish a player suffer more than he did. I doubt Lucroy agrees with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajunsmike View Post
    Are you really indicating you wish a player suffer more than he did. I doubt Lucroy agrees with you.
    Suffer? I would hope that a grown ___ man doesn’t consider a bruise from HBP as “suffering”.

    I’m saying, considering the injury he inflicted to Luc’s face and brain, he got off too easy with the pitch glancing off of him.

    I never said that I wish he would have suffered a serious injury (like broken face and concussion) but I would not be feeling sorry for him if the pitch had landed squarely between his shoulder blades where it was intended to.

  7. #1495

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    Quote Originally Posted by axg8750 View Post
    Suffer? I would hope that a grown ___ man doesn’t consider a bruise from HBP as “suffering”.

    I’m saying, considering the injury he inflicted to Luc’s face and brain, he got off too easy with the pitch glancing off of him.

    I never said that I wish he would have suffered a serious injury (like broken face and concussion) but I would not be feeling sorry for him if the pitch had landed squarely between his shoulder blades where it was intended to.
    That pitch was intended for his ear hole. No one would be saying anything if Marisnick plowed another catcher, but it’s Lucroy so we are all ____ed off.

  8. #1496

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    That pitch was intended for his ear hole. No one would be saying anything if Marisnick plowed another catcher, but it’s Lucroy so we are all ____ed off.
    Actually, my thought would have been exactly the same. He should have received a much larger suspension, as should anyone for any team who did the same. I think it sets a bad example for the rule which was specifically made to prevent these types of collisions. Now we're talking about "degrees" of punishment for breaking the specific rule. Either he did it or didn't do it, so it's the designated penalty or no penalty. JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunAmos View Post
    Actually, my thought would have been exactly the same. He should have received a much larger suspension, as should anyone for any team who did the same. I think it sets a bad example for the rule which was specifically made to prevent these types of collisions. Now we're talking about "degrees" of punishment for breaking the specific rule. Either he did it or didn't do it, so it's the designated penalty or no penalty. JMO
    I think the play was 100% clean with terrible results. I also think that Marisnick received the appropriate suspension. They want that type of play out of the game, there are provisions in the rule which clearly states what’s acceptable and what’s not.

    Just because it wasn’t an illegal play IMO, Joe Torre and MLB disagrees with me, but opinions on the play are relatively split. Even if it’s a clean play and within the rules of the game I feel like any player should be suspended for an avoidable collision at the plate.

    Make no mistake, I think Marisnick could have avoided it completely had he chosen the outside path 5 steps earlier. But once he chose the inside path the collision was unavoidable. I hate collisions at the plate and think that they shouldn’t be a part of the game.

  10. #1498

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    Just curious about how all of the Astro homers would feel if Lucroy's neck would have been broken? That hit was absolutely brutal and if he takes the outside lane, the dude would most likely have been safe. I'm not saying he's a dirty player, but that wasn't a clean hit unless your interpretation of clean is to knock someone out.


  11. #1499

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4life View Post
    That pitch was intended for his ear hole. No one would be saying anything if Marisnick plowed another catcher, but it's Lucroy so we are all ____ed off.
    As it should be. Same with Jake when he owned the Saints. Screw these pro teams. These are our guys.

    Z

  12. #1500

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    Quote Originally Posted by axg8750 View Post
    Suffer? I would hope that a grown ___ man doesn’t consider a bruise from HBP as “suffering”.

    I’m saying, considering the injury he inflicted to Luc’s face and brain, he got off too easy with the pitch glancing off of him.

    I never said that I wish he would have suffered a serious injury (like broken face and concussion) but I would not be feeling sorry for him if the pitch had landed squarely between his shoulder blades where it was intended to.
    Look, again you are assuming that his intent was to injure Luce's face. Since I don't read minds, I can only conclude his intention was to jar the ball from his glove. Again, Jake is not known as a dirty player, simply a player that plays the game hard.

    I don't know how old you are, but hitting someone with a fastball in the ear hole are in the helmet period with a 95 mph fastball could actually do as much damage as the hit on Luce's head or worse. Have you ever heard of Dickie Thon, Tony Conigliaro and Mike Jorgensen just to name a few?

    Baseball has a way of policing itself on the field with their unwritten rules. But you don't retaliate by throwing at someone's head for an action that you are uncertain was intentional attempt to injure.

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