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    Default Re: Teams competing with UL for a host site

    Allow me to chime in..... I have Season tickets to everything UL... Baseball, basketball and football.... Next year i think I will need to add women's softball cause those ladies deserve support as well....

    That's the extent of my contributions.... Why? Cause I don't know anywhere else to contribute... I am not wealthy but I'm not hurting either... i can't afford a "IHateLaState" endowment (although doesn't that sound like a great name)..... I would happily contribute to something that would benefit the university... especially to baseball which has been my college sport of choice since the days when i could pull an ice chest into the left field bleacher area (point being I am not a 2000 College World Series convert to UL baseball)....

    I work for a living which means I am not leadership material for such an endeavor.... But lead and I shall follow... I think there are many more out here BoP that will gladly write a check if they simply knew where to write it...


  2. #26

    This is so COOL Re: Teams competing with UL for a host site

    Quote Originally Posted by cajunproud
    _ Dr. A is exactly the reason things haven't been done in the realm of athletics, including lack of a private athletic foundation.

    I can only speak for myself when I say that I give as much as I possibly can to the athletic department.

    Here's something for you to chew on: I am a UL (then USL) graduate, but I spent my first year as a scholarship athlete at Southern Illinois University in Carbondale. Every year for the last 8 to 10 years, I get at least two phone calls a year from SIU's athletic foundation (actually students) asking if I want to donate. I very politely tell them that I did not graduate from there and I give to UL. Yet every year I get the phone calls. Do you know how many calls I have received from UL asking for my support, or better yet, saying thank you for the support that I give. NOT ONE FREAKIN CALL I still give and always will, but all this BS I hear coming from you about how this town doesn't support the school in horse s _ _ t. The reason this town hasn't supported UL athletically for years is because for years it wasn't allowed to, and that is the plain simple truth.

    Admitedly, things have gotten a lot better since Gerald has been involved, but we and UL still need to do a lot better. _
    Leadership is sadly lacking. BOP quick don't look it up, tell me the last time the RCC sent out anything to it's members showing the financial condition of the club, expenses, payments, leadership, funds within the club, goals. In fact I was told that I have to ask for a receipt on my contributions for tax purposes, that is just plain wrong.

    I think the point is that the RCC has most of the important leaders both from being able to contribute large amounts and positions of leadership in the UL family, yet it does not happen in the RCC. That would not happen in a private foundation run by those same people. IMO they are too close to the president, and the others are employees of the president. Yes we should form without the president so I agree we are all somewhat hypocritical. That still does not mean our leaders are doing the right things, the best things.

    I have always said Dr. Authement should have been proactive and pushed others to form this type of private club once he stabilized things after the 72 NCAA sanctions. The private club could have been formed with protection for the university, it seems to work at some of the most successful universities in the NCAA.

    You may think I am off base, but I can assure you that if the university had ten thousand like me this discussion would not even be happening, and I am not contributing in five figures, but do my share. There could be ten thousand like me, but unlike me many of those need cultivation, they are more like flowers, and I am more like a weed. They spray me with Roundup on a regular basis but I always come back next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IHateLaState
    That's the extent of my contributions.... Why? Cause I don't know anywhere else to contribute... I am not wealthy but I'm not hurting either... i can't afford a "IHateLaState" endowment (although doesn't that sound like a great name)..... I would happily contribute to something that would benefit the university... especially to baseball which has been my college sport of choice since the days when i could pull an ice chest into the left field bleacher area (point being I am not a 2000 College World Series convert to UL baseball)....

    I think there are many more out here BoP that will gladly write a check if they simply knew where to write it... _
    http://www.uoflgifts.com/site16.php

    Giving to Specific Teams

    Donors who have special interest in supporting our coaches and student-athletes in a particular sport are welcomed to designate their gifts to that sport. An endowed gift in support of any team can be made through the Ragin' Cajun Athletic Endowment. If you are interested in supporting any of the teams listed below, please contact Gerald Hebert.

    Baseball
    Men's Basketball
    Women's Basketball
    Cross Country
    Football
    Golf
    Women's Soccer
    Softball
    Tennis
    Track & Field
    Volleyball
    For more information about making a gift in support of Ragin' Cajun Athletics, please contact Gerald Hebert, Coordinator of Athletic Development, at (337) 482-0922 or click on the link below to send him an email.

    Email Gerald Hebert

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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdofParadise
    Quit making excuses and look in the mirror. That's where it all begins.
    Quote Originally Posted by BirdofParadise
    _ And everyone that has something to spare can do their part without the same tired built in excuses. _
    Not sure this is the place for accusing people of making excuses and not doing their part. I believe most of us on this board do what we can.

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    Default Re: Teams competing with UL for a host site

    Quote Originally Posted by UL Ragin Cajun
    _ Not sure this is the place for accusing people of making excuses and not doing their part. I believe most of us on this board do what we can. _
    You misunderstood my point as well. I have NEVER said that there are people not doing their part.

    What I did say is that people on this board blame the same two things for things not getting done in the past....Dr. A and the lack of a separate foundation.

    My point is that, while those may have been legit reasons in the past, they aren't now. There's no reason why fundraising for improved facilities can't take place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdofParadise
    _ I have NEVER said that there are people not doing their part.
    Not sure how I can misunderstand these two quotes but if what you're saying is that it's not what you meant then I can understand that.......
    Quote Originally Posted by BirdofParadise
    "Quit making excuses and look in the mirror. That's where it all begins."

    "And everyone that has something to spare can do their part without the same tired built in excuses."

    Quote Originally Posted by BirdofParadise
    What I did say is that people on this board blame the same two things for things not getting done in the past....Dr. A and the lack of a separate foundation.

    My point is that, while those may have been legit reasons in the past, they aren't now. There's no reason why fundraising for improved facilities can't take place. _
    I also understand this and agree.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by IHateLaState
    Allow me to chime in..... I have Season tickets to everything UL... Baseball, basketball and football.... Next year i think I will need to add women's softball cause those ladies deserve support as well....

    That's the extent of my contributions.... Why? Cause I don't know anywhere else to contribute... I am not wealthy but I'm not hurting either... i can't afford a "IHateLaState" endowment (although doesn't that sound like a great name)..... I would happily contribute to something that would benefit the university... especially to baseball which has been my college sport of choice since the days when i could pull an ice chest into the left field bleacher area (point being I am not a 2000 College World Series convert to UL baseball)....

    I work for a living which means I am not leadership material for such an endeavor.... But lead and I shall follow... I think there are many more out here BoP that will gladly write a check if they simply knew where to write it...
    I love the way that the first to point the finger will never answer that question but they will lead you to believe they are big time donors. Season tickets to every major sport is to be commended and I assume that you live close to Lafayette. One guy on here buys football season tickets every year and lives in Austin. To be honest even if I lived in Lafayette I would only get football and basketball tickets. I can’t stand baseball unless of course the Cajuns make it to a regional again then I can get into it.

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    What is RCC?
    I am a season ticket holder in football, baseball, and attend most home basketball games and I never heard of the RCC.


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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Town Cajun
    _ What is RCC?
    I am a season ticket holder in football, baseball, and attend most home basketball games and I never heard of the RCC. _
    RCC is the Ragin' Cajun Club. But I understand why you wouldn't know about it. For some strange reason, they couldn't have done much more to keep it "under the radar" if the CIA had been it charge. I remember when the RCC started under Terry Don Phillips. I signed up for it and the Young RCC for kids (my son was a toddler then, he is now a 23 year old Sr. at UL). I haven't heard much about the RCC since the first few years. I'm unclear as to why it became an underground organization. It had/has the potential to be a great benefit to the university.

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    I have seen a number of posts that state, "we need a private athletic foundation." Someone has to explain the "private" part to me. What does it encompass? What does it mean? Does it mean that it will operate as does the lsu TAF? Does it mean that the University has no control?

    So, before there is more talk about a private athletic foundation a number of things must be clarified.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunCharlie
    I have seen a number of posts that state, "we need a private athletic foundation." Someone has to explain the "private" part to me. What does it encompass? What does it mean? Does it mean that it will operate as does the lsu TAF? Does it mean that the University has no control?

    So, before there is more talk about a private athletic foundation a number of things must be clarified.
    Good question and what would be difference between that and RCC.

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    UL 1984, 1999 . . . . Re: Teams competing with UL for a host site

    Quote Originally Posted by RCAJUN90
    _ Good question and what would be difference between that and RCC. _
    90, do you belong to any organizations such as the Lions Club, Rotary Club, Masons, Knights of Columbus? Every single one of those organizations are private and in every single case they answer to the members. Especially about money. The RCC does nothing like that. It is a subdivision of the UL Foundation and I suspect the only way to find out what happens with the money is to use the Sunshine Laws of Louisiana.

    Now there are also funds you can donate to that are suppose to be protected within the RCC such as the summer school scholarship fund the I and my fellow Ksippers contributed to, and another is the Flag Project. I spoke to the Flag Project founder recently and they still need some help in endowing the recurring expenses, please everyone ship fifty to the RCC and designate it towards that worthy project.

    I know you choose to not support or buy tickets, but for those do a contribution to the RCC is required in order to get the chairback seats at Cajun Field, and the better basketball seats in the Cajun Dome. The university decides how to use my RCC funds as it applies to athletics because I have not designated a specific spot for it as with the Flag Project, and I know everyone will send in fifty bucks to that worthy project.

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