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    rhineaux's Avatar rhineaux is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Fan for Sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cajun Express
    _ We are winning city tag battle ever so slowly. I wonder when the levee will break. _
    Disagree. Maybe there are more and more people in Lafayette saying the name without lafayette, but that's it. it certainly isn't going over too well here in houston. so unless your talking about some sort of political progress, and not perception, then i would have to say i disagree.

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    Default Re: What will be the single biggest (turnaround) difference maker in UL FB history?

    None of the above...Fenroy and an offense that is less predictable. The wishbone was pretty cool, but I think it's done.


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    Ragin' Cajuns Re: What will be the single biggest (turnaround) difference maker in UL FB history?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tripple Threat
    _ None of the above...Fenroy and an offense that is less predictable. The wishbone was pretty cool, but I think it's done. _
    ???? I don't think the Cajuns have ever lined up in the 'Bone, or anything even remotely resembling it. Other than that, ok.

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    With 20K+ season ticket holders, every game would be a sell-out. That would be huge. Very few mid-majors consistently sell-out. If UL-Laffyette was able to do that, you would have to be mentioned with the Boise/TCU/Utah/BYU's of the world. That would be huge. Plus, it would be a HUGE financial boost. The evil empire down the road would get pretty nervous if y'all ever got to 20K season ticket holders.


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    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver
    _ ???? I don't think the Cajuns have ever lined up in the 'Bone, or anything even remotely resembling it. Other than that, ok. _
    wishbone...wishbone option...whatever it was called and remotely resembled...Go to the prostyle and use the option as what it is, an option.

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    Ragin' Cajuns Re: What will be the single biggest (turnaround) difference maker in UL FB history?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tripple Threat
    _ wishbone...wishbone option...whatever it was called and remotely resembled...Go to the prostyle and use the option as what it is, an option. _
    Let's see; I could say that we have [arguably] the #1 option QB in the US pulling the trigger for us. I could say that we have [without argument] the best and [arguably] the best two TB's in school history on the roster, along with a couple of WR/WB types with great speed who have displayed that they are very effective runners once they have the ball in hand. I could say that we have no proven pro type QB. But then ALL those are arguments that support continued or increased use of the option, which would mean I would have to disagree with you.

    We are, should be, and will remain a RUN first team. No amount of wishful thinking by all you pass happy guys is going to change that. We'll throw it enough to keep defenses honest, but the run will not be a trick play here like it is at Texas Tech or in much of the WAC.

    We aren't trying to win the NFC South; we're trying to win the Sunbelt. Our best chance of doing that is to run the option and mix in enough of a passing game to keep opposing defenses honest.

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    Default Re: What will be the single biggest (turnaround) difference maker in UL FB history?

    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver
    _ Let's see; I could say that we have [arguably] the #1 option QB in the US pulling the trigger for us. I could say that we have [without argument] the best and [arguably] the best two TB's in school history on the roster, along with a couple of WR/WB types with great speed who have displayed that they are very effective runners once they have the ball in hand. I could say that we have no proven pro type QB. But then ALL those are arguments that support continued or increased use of the option, which would mean I would have to disagree with you.

    We are, should be, and will remain a RUN first team. No amount of wishful thinking by all you pass happy guys is going to change that. We'll throw it enough to keep defenses honest, but the run will not be a trick play here like it is at Texas Tech or in much of the WAC.

    We aren't trying to win the NFC South; we're trying to win the Sunbelt. Our best chance of doing that is to run the option and mix in enough of a passing game to keep opposing defenses honest. _
    Wow, did you not watch a single practice this spring. This is a pass happy coach we got as our OC, not so much long ball but bubble screens short passes, RB screens; mostly some west coast offense kind of small ball stuff. Although Fenroy will have to be a big part of our offense don't say that we are a run first option only team. I think alot of you will be suprised by the amount of passing we will do this next year, also you'll be suprised by the number of recievers that you have never heard of getting reps on saturday. Its gonna be some greatest show on turf kinda stuff our there this year, and I think it'll really make a difference.

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    Ragin' Cajuns Re: What will be the single biggest (turnaround) difference maker in UL FB history?

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFan64
    _ Wow, did you not watch a single practice this spring. This is a pass happy coach we got as our OC, not so much long ball but bubble screens short passes, RB screens; mostly some west coast offense kind of small ball stuff. Although Fenroy will have to be a big part of our offense don't say that we are a run first option only team. I think alot of you will be suprised by the amount of passing we will do this next year, also you'll be suprised by the number of recievers that you have never heard of getting reps on saturday. Its gonna be some greatest show on turf kinda stuff our there this year, and I think it'll really make a difference. _
    I watched all three scrimmages. We are, and will remain a run first team. Like Texas Tech, we will spread the field from side to side with receivers in short routes. Unlike Texas Tech, throwing to them will not be our primary offense. They typically throw 60 a game; we will throw at most half that, probably 1/3 of that. Tech will typically generate 6000 yards of total offense/year; 5,000 of that passing. We will generate probably 5,500, but the yardage will tilt to much more to the running side, probably on the order of 3,000 Rush, 2,500 pass. Yes, I just predicted another school rushing record for this year. I stand by that prediction.

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    rhineaux's Avatar rhineaux is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Fan for Sure

    Default Re: What will be the single biggest (turnaround) difference maker in UL FB history?

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFan64
    _ Wow, did you not watch a single practice this spring. This is a pass happy coach we got as our OC, not so much long ball but bubble screens short passes, RB screens; mostly some west coast offense kind of small ball stuff. Although Fenroy will have to be a big part of our offense don't say that we are a run first option only team. I think alot of you will be suprised by the amount of passing we will do this next year, also you'll be suprised by the number of recievers that you have never heard of getting reps on saturday. Its gonna be some greatest show on turf kinda stuff our there this year, and I think it'll really make a difference. _
    Just because the ball moves semi-forward through the air, and the QB gets passing yards for it, and the reciever gets recieving yards for it, doesn't always mean its not a running play. I think those short screens, quick slant routes, etc are effectively rushing plays, they're just run differently. I think that they're very good rushing plays in that in a regular rushing play, the qb can fake the run with play-action and maybe catch the defense taking a false step. In the short dink and dunk style, the qb can fake the run with the play-action, then fake the short pass with a pump fake to the "passing/running" play to the right that the defense is waiting for, and then even come back to the opposite side. Like I alluded to, its just another way to take advantage of the strengths we have at the line of scrimmage.

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    Just1More's Avatar Just1More is offline Ragin Cajuns of Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns Greatest Fan Ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhineaux
    _ Just because the ball moves semi-forward through the air, and the QB gets passing yards for it, and the reciever gets recieving yards for it, doesn't always mean its not a running play. I think those short screens, quick slant routes, etc are effectively rushing plays, they're just run differently. I think that they're very good rushing plays in that in a regular rushing play, the qb can fake the run with play-action and maybe catch the defense taking a false step. In the short dink and dunk style, the qb can fake the run with the play-action, then fake the short pass with a pump fake to the "passing/running" play to the right that the defense is waiting for, and then even come back to the opposite side. Like I alluded to, its just another way to take advantage of the strengths we have at the line of scrimmage. _
    I get what you are saying, but on the books, forward passes go into the passing yard column... period. I hope we mix in the screens, quick crossing, dinks and dunks... and most of all... that they are completions. I am not a pass-happy fan... I am a score-happy fan. Whatever it takes. You can be a run oriented offense, and still have a well orchestrated passing attack. A five yard pass that results in a 30 yard gain goes in the books as a 30 yard pass (obviously). So, statistically, it is quite possible to have a "balanced attack". I am not in favor of forcing an aerial assault. But, it sure doesn't hurt to keep a defense honest with a timely toss or two.

    I know it seems over-simplified, but Stokely (coach) used to send the faster WR on what appeared to be a deep route, and the guy would run a curl and just stop, just as another receiver would be taking it upfield. It seemed like 50% of the time, the defense would bite and the guy would get behind the coverage. It does require a pump fake by the QB... but it works. I have looked for this under Bustle, but it always seems like the deep route is extremely obvious and involves our "4.3" guy.

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    Default Re: What will be the single biggest (turnaround) difference maker in UL FB history?

    Quote Originally Posted by Just1More
    I get what you are saying, but on the books, forward passes go into the passing yard column... period. I hope we mix in the screens, quick crossing, dinks and dunks... and most of all... that they are completions. I am not a pass-happy fan... I am a score-happy fan. Whatever it takes. You can be a run oriented offense, and still have a well orchestrated passing attack. A five yard pass that results in a 30 yard gain goes in the books as a 30 yard pass (obviously). So, statistically, it is quite possible to have a "balanced attack". I am not in favor of forcing an aerial assault. But, it sure doesn't hurt to keep a defense honest with a timely toss or two.

    I know it seems over-simplified, but Stokely (coach) used to send the faster WR on what appeared to be a deep route, and the guy would run a curl and just stop, just as another receiver would be taking it upfield. It seemed like 50% of the time, the defense would bite and the guy would get behind the coverage. It does require a pump fake by the QB... but it works. I have looked for this under Bustle, but it always seems like the deep route is extremely obvious and involves our "4.3" guy.
    Careful there don't question the coach. What you are saying will work a few times during a game but the defense will catch on to that real quick. The balanced attack is a must. If it is Fenroy up the middle, Fenroy to the left and Fenroy to the right, we will lose.

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