Any information on cajun field renovation

[HoustonCajun]

Here is a different way of approaching the building of a new stadium by UNLV. This is off the MtnWestFans.com board.

http://www.mwcconnection.com/2013/1/13/ ... ideo-board

[cajunhawk]

Here is a different way of approaching the building of a new stadium by UNLV. This is off the MtnWestFans.com board.

http://www.mwcconnection.com/2013/1/13/ ... ideo-board

Link doesn't work...I keep getting a "site does not exist" error

[Just1More]

The same thing I have been talking about for the past 3 weeks. Open your ears and unbunch your thong.

Well... I've read the subject forum threads, at least, for 3 weeks... including your "input"... and I see nothing that is positively impacting the status of our athletic situation. I do see where you don't respect fans who give money. You say you are pessimistic about RCAF and anyone "big" ever contributing. The Master Plan requires it. What else are you doing to "unite us"?

[moorecajun]

Its not a cop out. Its getting their attention using the one thing they understand...money. If they gave a rats ___ about our opinion alone they would have changed the way they do things years ago.

I respect what you have to say and everyone is entiltled to do as they please with their money. But my take on the statement "you show me a plan and I'll donate" can be likened to "I don't like what you are doing so I am not going to donate" and other variations.

The point is, that type statement is like holding the university hostage and giving them an ultimatum ... say that does work for the singular instance of getting a Master Plan out there. The precedent has been set ... now what if there are others that now will say "that's not what I want to see so I'm not going to give".

I guess my point is here: I totally agree we need to do something to get everybody on the same page, the same "side of the rope" if you will. I just don't think holding them "hostage" is a good for a long term relationship.

I think we can do better than that.

[CrazyCajun]

I respect what you have to say and everyone is entiltled to do as they please with their money. But my take on the statement "you show me a plan and I'll donate" can be likened to "I don't like what you are doing so I am not going to donate" and other variations.

The point is, that type statement is like holding the university hostage and giving them an ultimatum ... say that does work for the singular instance of getting a Master Plan out there. The precedent has been set ... now what if there are others that now will say "that's not what I want to see so I'm not going to give".

I guess my point is here: I totally agree we need to do something to get everybody on the same page, the same "side of the rope" if you will. I just don't think holding them "hostage" is a good for a long term relationship.

I think we can do better than that.

So instead they hold us and our money hostage with lies and empty promises?

[cajunhawk]

Well... I've read the subject forum threads, at least, for 3 weeks... including your "input"... and I see nothing that is positively impacting the status of our athletic situation. I do see where you don't respect fans who give money. You say you are pessimistic about RCAF and anyone "big" ever contributing. The Master Plan requires it. What else are you doing to "unite us"?

How am I against people who give money? I give money. In fact, there aren't many people I hang around with who give as much as me. So that blows a massive hole in your argument on that one. I am pessimistic about the big boys just unloading the cash once the Master Plan is ready to go. Give me one instance that would show me and the world that the money people of Lafayette are just frothing at the mouth to unload huge donations into the RCAF?

What else am I doing? The same most people are doing around here..._____ing and moaning and making idle promises because they are all too chicken ____ to do anything of substance about the problem. Is that what you want to hear? I have given several ideas that are off the beaten path. What's so hard about trying to tap our stagnant alumni pool for donations? There are literally thousands that just graduated. A small percentage of that each year just fills up the coffers, and is way more stable than any large donation from a power hunger money backer who wants things done their way or no way at all. An increase in small donors would actually be a catalyst for big donors to jump on board. And with a large enough base of small donors, we could insure ourselves against any donor deciding we aren't meeting his level of excellence and withdrawing his donation. This is not rocket science. This university employs intelligent people at many levels. This should not be that hard to undertake. If I came to you with a petition that demanded the administration finish and carry out a Master Plan for the advancement of athletics...would you sign it?

[cajunhawk]

So instead they hold us and our money hostage with lies and empty promises?

Our money has done great things the past two years chief. Our money brought Hud back from Tulane.

[SlappyCajun]

Hawk-

Your idea is good. But, the strategies don't have to be mutually exclusive. Also, why do you paint big donors as "power hungry?" I think it's reasonable that they can decide whether to donate to a certain venture based on its prospects.

If we were serious about bringing young alumni into the fold, there would be a young person on the RCAF board.

[CrazyCajun]

How am I against people who give money? I give money. In fact, there aren't many people I hang around with who give as much as me. So that blows a massive hole in your argument on that one. I am pessimistic about the big boys just unloading the cash once the Master Plan is ready to go. Give me one instance that would show me and the world that the money people of Lafayette are just frothing at the mouth to unload huge donations into the RCAF?

What else am I doing? The same most people are doing around here..._____ing and moaning and making idle promises because they are all too chicken ____ to do anything of substance about the problem. Is that what you want to hear? I have given several ideas that are off the beaten path. What's so hard about trying to tap our stagnant alumni pool for donations? There are literally thousands that just graduated. A small percentage of that each year just fills up the coffers, and is way more stable than any large donation from a power hunger money backer who wants things done their way or no way at all. An increase in small donors would actually be a catalyst for big donors to jump on board. And with a large enough base of small donors, we could insure ourselves against any donor deciding we aren't meeting his level of excellence and withdrawing his donation. This is not rocket science. This university employs intelligent people at many levels. This should not be that hard to undertake. If I came to you with a petition that demanded the administration finish and carry out a Master Plan for the advancement of athletics...would you sign it?

1) what has this administration done to attract big donors? Nothing
2) you are looking at it like its your big money, wealthy people can donate large amounts of money quicker than we can donate ours. They don't look at the amount like you or I, most of them are looking to "donate" to somewhere for tax purposes, you just have to give them a reason. There 100k is like our 1k, it won't make or break them.
3)your petition is valiant effort and I'd sign it, but I do t think it will have the effect you think it will, they know people are ____ed, they just don't care as long as the cronies of old that surround them keep giving them the atta boy. Why do you think anyone who has challenged their way of doing things has been gotten rid of?

[cajunhawk]

Hawk-

Your idea is good. But, the strategies don't have to be mutually exclusive. Also, why do you paint big donors as "power hungry?" I think it's reasonable that they can decide whether to donate to a certain venture based on its prospects.

If we were serious about bringing young alumni into the fold, there would be a young person on the RCAF board.

You see it all over the place. Athletic Departments held hostage by the big donors. Why do that to yourself? Why eschew such a large portion of control to such a small portion of people? Quantity over quality. Power in numbers, not just power numbers.

[moorecajun]

So instead they hold us and our money hostage with lies and empty promises?

When I give to the United Way, I don't tell them how to spend it.

Now, you can come back and say "yeah, but they have shown me a plan and I buy into it'. And that's it exactly. I didn't tell them if I wouldn't give them any money until they showed me a plan.

I get everybody's frustration AND I am very, very hopeful we are all soon to be overjoyed by a plan. But I have never felt threatening someone was the way to get their attention.

I am only speaking for myself but maybe a petition is a better solution; we need to show a force of unity.

Just my opinion; everybody's opinion is the right thing for them.

[CajunEXPRESS]

Well I am stunned. One guy says after thirty plus years of being fed bs he is near giving up, but will hang on as long as Hud is here, OR the administration actually do now what they say they will in the fuzzy future. So he is saying if you do none of the above I give up and will do other things with my money and time that I have left. That does not reek of lack or patience, or a threat.

Others say they are true believers. Well like they say a fool and his money are quickly parted.

Hawk, seems to say a lot of things, but mostly don't give up. I believe wants a mass petition signed.

I will sign said petition but that approach is really a form of being gullible. The protestors of the sixties did not sign petitions, they participated in marches, flop ins, sit downs, civil disobedience. I would love to see 16k students start having sit ins in front of Martin Hall, then I could tell T Joe my money will come when the sit ins are satisfied with the results.

Both my current options are non starters. Starve the program or fund lies and incompetence.

All I ask of the true believes is to trust after verification. Right now you are going to end up with a lot of promises and then the eventual excuses. I know, I know you want to believe them just ask what exactly have they done to garner such trust?