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    Quote Originally Posted by SlappyCajun View Post
    How is still going down? When have won more games in the last two years?
    We have? Well lets just give the ole coach another raise! I have not seen much improvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunfan96 View Post
    We have? Well lets just give the ole coach another raise! I have not seen much improvement.
    How much of the previous half dozen years did you pay attention to?

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    You obviously have a very small _____.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fbfan View Post
    You obviously have a very small _____.
    Not sure which person on this thread has insignificant genitals because you didn't quote anyone in your post. You obviously have a very small brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Bleed_RED View Post
    Just for ____s and giggles, lets break down Marlin's first 3 seasons here.

    1st season: He had a team that was designed to lose. There were all kinds of injuries, one of our star plalyers were basically playing on one leg, and our best post player was a 6'5 freshman. This team was just not in a position to win. Especially when they were a team who was used to playing in Robert Lee's offense (which is run down the court and throw up a 3). They were so bad they lost to Texas State. Then what happens? Marlin, somehow, someway, gets them on the nations 2nd longest winning streak. They go from a 3-14 team to a 14-15 team. That is simply an amazing feat.

    2nd season: A team full of promise but also full of a lot of new faces because of the big senior class last year. This team was as dysfunctional as can be. Players were undermining the coach and they just didn't respect him. We had some talent, but we were not a team. Despite all of this, we still had a winning record in the regular season and went to some kind of post season tournament for the first time in a while. After the season, Marlin fires one of his assistants and he takes a handful of his players with him. If I remember correctly, 3 guys transferred, and 4 more exhausted their eligibility. That's 7 players gone. That's more than half the team. And everyone remaining were a bunch of freshman and sophomores and one junior.

    This season: Marlin brings in a bunch of new faces to replace the 7 leaving. There is talent, but they are very young. Marlin seems to really like this group and doesn't seem to have a problem with any of the players like the previous year. They have one senior on the team and he's not even a starter. This team has 6 freshmen and 4 sophomores. They are very very very young. If you've watched them this year, you see the potential at times, and at others you see a young team who has absolutely no idea what it's doing. More than often you see the latter.

    I say give Marlin a few years with this group. If he keeps this group together, I have a feeling everyone wanting to get rid of Marlin will be eating their words. He's had a brand new group every year. If he can change that, watch out.
    Nice summary and my thoughts are not to get rid of Marlin. I actually hope he turns it around. What I am saying is that he has not earned an extension or a pay raise period. If he is the coach his resume says he is than he will turn things around but I don't like making assumptions. I don't pay contractors before they finish the job. Its not good business. Good business makes good friends but poor business decisions lead to regrets and frustration. Marlin really should not want an extension and should feel guilty about getting a pay raise he has not earned YET or maybe never. He's a big boy lets treat him like one. You want the big bucks - earn it or walk!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wgwillis View Post
    Nice summary and my thoughts are not to get rid of Marlin. I actually hope he turns it around. What I am saying is that he has not earned an extension or a pay raise period. If he is the coach his resume says he is than he will turn things around but I don't like making assumptions. I don't pay contractors before they finish the job. Its not good business. Good business makes good friends but poor business decisions lead to regrets and frustration. Marlin really should not want an extension and should feel guilty about getting a pay raise he has not earned YET or maybe never. He's a big boy lets treat him like one. You want the big bucks - earn it or walk!
    From what I read, he earned it through his contract when in his first season we won the Western division. It was delayed as he allowed the university to re-do Hud's contract first. So he actually earned the pay raise and extension because of incentives in the contract.

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    What a country? This is a fine place to live & you know the economy is freaking BOOMING when a guy who has a success rate of 50%, has gotten into zero post season competition not paid for by the school, has not won a single conference tournament game, has had to run off one assistant & half his players, & is presently rolling along at a winning percentage of 0.333 gets a 60% raise & a five year contract extension. Makes perfect sense to me. Before you kill the messenger again for making you do something known in some lands as thinking, I know already. He sucks almost less than any other SBC coach (except during tournament time).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandwagon King View Post
    What a country? This is a fine place to live & you know the economy is freaking BOOMING when a guy who has a success rate of 50%, has gotten into zero post season competition not paid for by the school, has not won a single conference tournament game, has had to run off one assistant & half his players, & is presently rolling along at a winning percentage of 0.333 gets a 60% raise & a five year contract extension. Makes perfect sense to me. Before you kill the messenger again for making you do something known in some lands as thinking, I know already. He sucks almost less than any other SBC coach (except during tournament time).
    Is Elfrid Payton still left handed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandwagon King View Post
    What a country? This is a fine place to live & you know the economy is freaking BOOMING when a guy who has a success rate of 50%, has gotten into zero post season competition not paid for by the school, has not won a single conference tournament game, has had to run off one assistant & half his players, & is presently rolling along at a winning percentage of 0.333 gets a 60% raise & a five year contract extension. Makes perfect sense to me. Before you kill the messenger again for making you do something known in some lands as thinking, I know already. He sucks almost less than any other SBC coach (except during tournament time).
    BWK, I thought you were a free market believer?

    You of course know in sports it is a sellers market when it comes to coaching hires. The coaches have all the power on the front end. They get lucrative front end payments, easy goals for extensions, great buy out exits, and golden parachutes for failing. Nobody puts a gun to these universities to make these hires. The market puts the gun to their respective heads.

    I hate to use the over used but it is what it is. Marlin was a highly regarded lower level coach when hired. His contract called for easily met goals, and he was owed the rewrite by contract. Now we can bash him or support him, either way he will coach for a couple of more seasons. The hellish part is if he turns it around in year two of the extension he has a very diminished buy out, so the university like all universities are losers either way.

    I will support the coach, you have an eye towards failure, which is usually the case in most coaching hires so the odds are stacked in your favor. And yes it is a hell of a country. ;o)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlappyCajun View Post
    Is Elfrid Payton still left handed?
    You remembered that? :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    BWK, I thought you were a free market believer?

    You of course know in sports it is a sellers market when it comes to coaching hires. The coaches have all the power on the front end. They get lucrative front end payments, easy goals for extensions, great buy out exits, and golden parachutes for failing. Nobody puts a gun to these universities to make these hires. The market puts the gun to their respective heads.

    I hate to use the over used but it is what it is. Marlin was a highly regarded lower level coach when hired. His contract called for easily met goals, and he was owed the rewrite by contract. Now we can bash him or support him, either way he will coach for a couple of more seasons. The hellish part is if he turns it around in year two of the extension he has a very diminished buy out, so the university like all universities are losers either way.

    I will support the coach, you have an eye towards failure, which is usually the case in most coaching hires so the odds are stacked in your favor. And yes it is a hell of a country. ;o)

    Most people are free market when it comes to there own salary, but wage controllers when it comes to others......

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    Matt Moss left the team according to Parrott's twitter.


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