6 SBC Teams in Bowl Games

[Grantvb]

Just a thought......There are 70 bowl spots....123 FBS schools....which means that 53 teams must finish below .500 in order to open up some at-large spots. Currently there are 30 schools which are bowl in-eligible, leaving 23 to go down. Going into this weekend 10 schools are at 6 loses; 14 schools with 5 loses and 14 schools with 4 loses - with 3 games left to play. That's 38 schools not counting any in the Sunbelt. Of the 10 schools on the edge, 4 of them play each other by season's end and 3 more must play a 5 lose team by season's end. 7 of these schools play there toughest stretch of 3 games to finish. That could be as many as 14 teams dropped from the role.

Conferences I project won't fill their bowl tie-ins: ACC (5 of 8); Big 10 (6 of 8); Big East (3 of 6); CUSA (4 of 5) and Big 12 (7 of 8). Unfortunately, i see the MAC and WAC placing more bowl eligible teams than their spots (10 to 4).

Now, in order for the Sunbelt to score a good crop this bowl season, here's how I see it:

Louisiana - Win out......at least the last 3. (8-4; 6-2)
Monroe - Win out.................................. (8-4; 6-2)
WKU - Win two of three......................... (8-4; 5-3)
Middle Tenn. - Win to of three................ (8-4; 6-2)
Ark. State - Choke on the last 2.............. (7-5; 5-3)
Troy - Destroy everyone........................ (6-6; 5-3)
*UNT - Could get eligible, but would need to win out, dropping ULM and WKU to 7-5 each. This would jeopardize all 3 teams for bowl consideration.

Just suggesting how this COULD end........The above scenario would also cloud the conference championship picture, but that's college football. Any agreements? Disputes???

[Turbine]

Great research.

Thanks

[UL_Cajuns]

I know that you have to have 6 wins to be bowl eligible, but lets just say that every 5 or more team gets as of today that 6th win Saturday.
There are 69 teams with 5 or more wins in FBS right now with 70 bowls to fill.
Ohio State, North Carolina and Penn State are banned from post season.
So as of today, there are only 66 teams with 5 or more wins right now.
I truely believe this year that every bowl eligible team with 6 wins will get into a bowl.

[Grantvb]

Try this on.......atfer last weekends games, now only 20 teams are needed to fall in order to keep the Sunbelt alive for 6..(Maybe 7 if UNT can pull 2 upsets in monroe and WKU):

18 (4-6) Teams and their remaining foes
Maryland - Clemson, FSU
VaTech - BC, VA
Virginia - UNC, VaTech
UConn - Louisville, Cincy
Pitt - Rutgers, USF
USF - Miami, Cincy, Pitt
Iowa - Michigan, Nebraska
Indiana - Penn State, Purdue
Purdue - Illinois, Indiana
Marshall - Houston, ECU
Houston - Marshall, tulane
Rice - SMU, UTEP
Miami(OH) - C. Mich, Ball St.
C. Mich - Miami (OH), UMass
Utah - Arizona, Colorado
Tennessee - Vanderbilt, Kentucky
Arkansas - Miss St., LSU
TX State - Navy, NMSU

Honorable Mention (5 loss teams)
Baylor - Texas Tech, Oklahoma St, Kansas State
Ole Miss - LSU, Miss St.
Wake Forest - Notre Dame, Vanderbilt
GaTech - Duke, Georgia
Mich. St. - NWSTN, Minnesota

that's 23 teams. UNT isn't great but they are good.....Troy only needs 1 win. So do we......Just sayin.

[HoustonCajun]

Try this on.......atfer last weekends games, now only 20 teams are needed to fall in order to keep the Sunbelt alive for 6..(Maybe 7 if UNT can pull 2 upsets in monroe and WKU):

18 (4-6) Teams and their remaining foes
Maryland - Clemson, FSU
VaTech - BC, VA
Virginia - UNC, VaTech
UConn - Louisville, Cincy
Pitt - Rutgers, USF
USF - Miami, Cincy, Pitt
Iowa - Michigan, Nebraska
Indiana - Penn State, Purdue
Purdue - Illinois, Indiana
Marshall - Houston, ECU
Houston - Marshall, tulane
Rice - SMU, UTEP
Miami(OH) - C. Mich, Ball St.
C. Mich - Miami (OH), UMass
Utah - Arizona, Colorado
Tennessee - Vanderbilt, Kentucky
Arkansas - Miss St., LSU
TX State - Navy, NMSU

Honorable Mention (5 loss teams)
Baylor - Texas Tech, Oklahoma St, Kansas State
Ole Miss - LSU, Miss St.
Wake Forest - Notre Dame, Vanderbilt
GaTech - Duke, Georgia
Mich. St. - NWSTN, Minnesota

that's 23 teams. UNT isn't great but they are good.....Troy only needs 1 win. So do we......Just sayin.

Troy is playing good football now. They host Ark State and play @ MT to finish the season. I think and hope that Troy will win at least one of those games. Which ever team they beat will then have 2 losses. That losing team needs to win the final game of the season giving that team 2 losses and a multi-team tie for the SBC Championship, UL being one of those teams assuming we win all of our 3 final games.

[AstroCajun]

Troy is playing good football now. They host Ark State and play @ MT to finish the season. I think and hope that Troy will win at least one of those games. Which ever team they beat will then have 2 losses. That losing team needs to win the final game of the season giving that team 2 losses and a multi-team tie for the SBC Championship, UL being one of those teams assuming we win all of our 3 final games.

Best case scenario, assuming a Cajun sweep of WKU, FAU and USA, is having Troy beats both stAte and MT, giving them both two losses, then MT beating stAte. MT and the Cajuns being the only two loss teams are then left with a tie for the championship.

Question, how does the tie breaker work if the Cajuns and MT don't have a head to head? MT would have beat stAte, both would have lost to Troy who has alreadly lost to UL.

[MelRock]

Best case scenario, assuming a Cajun sweep of WKU, FAU and USA, is having Troy beats both stAte and MT, giving them both two losses, then MT beating stAte. MT and the Cajuns being the only two loss teams are then left with a tie for the championship.

Question, how does the tie breaker work if the Cajuns and MT don't have a head to head? MT would have beat stAte, both would have lost to Troy who has alreadly lost to UL.

It is co-champions, New Bowl can take either one and fulfill the champions requirement. As a matter fact if 3 or 4 teams tie they can take anyone of those teams to fulfill the requirement.

[Turbine]

It is co-champions, New Bowl can take either one and fulfill the champions requirement. As a matter fact if 3 or 4 teams tie they can take anyone of those teams to fulfill the requirement.

Does anyone know when that changed?

In 2005 they chose the winner of the tiebreaker.

[MelRock]

Does anyone know when that changed?

In 2005 they chose the winner of the tiebreaker.

I have been hearing this since last year, Jay maybe able to confirm. Also Jay did comment that rule or caveat (SP?) maybe going away. I guess we will see.

[wcd35]

Does anyone know when that changed?

In 2005 they chose the winner of the tiebreaker.

Nothing changed other than the fact that more than one team made a bowl. The tiebreaker winner is guaranteed a bowl somewhere. That's been that way all along, even today. Since we had one bowl tie in and no other bowls were taking a SBC team, the NO Bowl at Lafayette had to take ASU.

[MelRock]

Nothing changed other than the fact that more than one team made a bowl. The tiebreaker winner is guaranteed a bowl somewhere. That's been that way all along, even today. Since we had one bowl tie in and no other bowls were taking a SBC team, the NO Bowl at Lafayette had to take ASU.

Makes sense, thank you!

Geaux Cajuns

[Turbine]

In my opinion the correct method is pick a conference winner based on tiebreakers and rank them.

If the conference winner is not bowl eligable they vacate, but you don't go back and pick a conference winner again, like they did in 2005. Nor do you fail to rank them the first time around.

I am not against each school being able to claim a co-championship.

I am also not against the New Orleans bowl taking any co-champ it wants, but it is the duty of the SBC to rank the champs.

jmo