#6 Qyendarius Griffin

[Camz]

I gave you some positive feedback BUT if this conversation keeps going I can see you getting more red blocks. LOL

thanks bro...

back on track; is Qyen off the team for good?

[CajunMarineBBK]

From what I have heard that will be determined at the end of the season if he returns or not.

[CajunRebel]

what the heck; prior to that post i had 2 red blocks now i have 1...is that good or bad?

It's good.

I sat through two separate conversations this week where a bunch of guys on their 4th or 5th round at the bar started talking about how horrible it was that some states legalized marajuana. Somehow their heads didn't explode from the hypocracy. But after those experiences I felt I had to give you some positive rep for saying something rational.

[MelRock]

thanks bro...

back on track; is Qyen off the team for good?

Coach said after the game on Saturday that he is off the team for good and wished him well.

[Camz]

well that's just unfortunate, gl qyen

[MelRock]

well that's just unfortunate, gl qyen

Yes it is, but is also unfortunate he couldn't follow team rules. Hud never said what the dismissal was for except it was for team rules and I am assuming who ever posted what is was for knows what they are talking about.

[campo118]

Anyone with an hour to spare and Netflix should watch a little of "Mac and Devin go to 'High' School" Whoever made the point earlier that it is part of African American culture was spot on. Not saying it doesn't exist in all cultures and is progressively becoming more acceptable amongst all cultures. I will say it is hypocritical to say the least that pot is judged so harshly while drinking is acceptable, however in Quen's case he knew part of "his job" included passing ____ tests. He failed to do his job. I work in the oil field. I get drug tested. If I fail for pot I get fired. Same sort of rules so I also agree with the poster that said Quen is being punished for not following rules. Do I think pot should be legal? Absolutely, but following laws and rules is more important to me. That is where character overrides culture.

[CajunFan3406]

what the heck; prior to that post i had 2 red blocks now i have 1...is that good or bad?

I gave you green ones too Camz. You got all the reds from your last convo on here about weed. It's a touchy topic around these parts.

[CajunFan3406]

But like campo said, the legality or illegality of the substance is irrelevant. His dismissal was a result of a team rule violation. No matter if you agree with the rules or not, he violated them multiple times. Players agree to these when they join the team. The fault is solely on Qyen for this. He's a big boy who is capable of making his own decisions. He made the wrong ones in this case.

[Mark Hemphill]

Some of you are missing the point about all of this. In this particular instance, it doesn't matter whether pot should be legal or illegal or whether this is a cultural thing for many African-Americans that somehow explains/excuses Griffin's alleged use of pot.

To me, it is as simple as this. UL made a deal with Griffin in which the university said that they would pay for his tuition and provide him with food and shelter at no expense to him. In return, the university asked that he commit himself to football and to his studies and agree to abide by all rules and regulations of society, the NCAA and the university. By signing on the dotted line, Griffin agreed to all of this.

Griffin has purportedly not lived up to his end of the agreement by allegedly failing 3 drug tests. All the reasons or excuses why he chose to smoke pot are irrelevant. This was a choice he made, nobody forced him smoke it. If good old Uncle Willie was hounding him at the family bar-b-que to smoke some weed, I would have hoped that Griffin would have been strong enough to say "no thanks, I've made a deal with UL and I don't want to screw it up". But he apparently didn't.

The fact is, and I can't see why so many people are having trouble with this, is that his dismissal is simply a result of him breaking the rules that he agreed to abide by. Like I said before, he had to have known what happened to the Honey Badger yet he still made the choice to smoke pot. It doesn't matter if you think that pot should be legal. The NCAA and UL both say that it is a violation of the rules to smoke it and if you do, then there will be consequences. I applaud Coach Hud for saying that rules come before the team and for not trying to figure out some loophole to keep Griffin on the team just to win more games. To me, that shows much integrity on his part and I give him all the props in the world for that.

[CajunRebel]

Some of you are missing the point about all of this. In this particular instance, it doesn't matter whether pot should be legal or illegal or whether this is a cultural thing for many African-Americans that somehow explains/excuses Griffin's alleged use of pot.

To me, it is as simple as this. UL made a deal with Griffin in which the university said that they would pay for his tuition and provide him with food and shelter at no expense to him. In return, the university asked that he commit himself to football and to his studies and agree to abide by all rules and regulations of society, the NCAA and the university. By signing on the dotted line, Griffin agreed to all of this.

Griffin has purportedly not lived up to his end of the agreement by allegedly failing 3 drug tests. All the reasons or excuses why he chose to smoke pot are irrelevant. This was a choice he made, nobody forced him smoke it. If good old Uncle Willie was hounding him at the family bar-b-que to smoke some weed, I would have hoped that Griffin would have been strong enough to say "no thanks, I've made a deal with UL and I don't want to screw it up". But he apparently didn't.

The fact is, and I can't see why so many people are having trouble with this, is that his dismissal is simply a result of him breaking the rules that he agreed to abide by. Like I said before, he had to have known what happened to the Honey Badger yet he still made the choice to smoke pot. It doesn't matter if you think that pot should be legal. The NCAA and UL both say that it is a violation of the rules to smoke it and if you do, then there will be consequences. I applaud Coach Hud for saying that rules come before the team and for not trying to figure out some loophole to keep Griffin on the team just to win more games. To me, that shows much integrity on his part and I give him all the props in the world for that.

I don't think anyone is mad at the dismissal or the rules made by Hud, UL, or the NCAA. The only complaints I've seen have to do with the government's laws against drug use.

[Camz]

yea no one said it's wrong for him to be dismissed from the team. I think everyone can agree that if you break agreed upon rules then you face the consequences. I was just asking that guy about him drinking beer but thinking pot should never be legal(lol). But as Z said let's keep this on topic.

Thoughts on if he'll catch on with another school?