Marlin Extension? After 2 years?

[I_Bleed_RED]

Can anyone list the quality losses as well as ONE quality win so far in his tenure?

We don't even have a quality schedule to get excited about. If you are on the let's keep it at under 2K crowd so you can drive in five minutes before the start of a horrically boring contest against another nobody team & be beck home within five minutes of most likely losing said contest ( check 30-31), then this is your man for sure. At elast give him another season to prove whether he is even worth keeping much less extending another season, much less more than that.

We upset Central Florida last year. I'd call that a pretty quality win. And we went on an 11 game winning streak 2 years ago wich included some impressive wins over some of the top teams in the Sun Belt that year.

[Bandwagon King]

How about the fact he had the balls to do the right thing? I would have given him the extension the day he stepped up. To answer your question further.

When he made the decisions he did, we knew he was setting back his timetable. By giving him the extension you show you support those decisions as well and will not count a bad year because of these decisions against him. That will help the recruiting backlash and make a statement that the school believes it hired the right guy.

Biggest crock of crap I ever heard. So the coach needs an extension as a recruiting tool because it tells the players he is recruiting that they can take all the time they need to develop so they can take their time & not have any pressure on themsleves which will in turn do what? Give them the sense of urgency to work as hard as they can to become the best team possible ASAP? Bull crap. How about this for an incentive? DO YOUR JOB OR GET FIRED! If this guy has to have a two, three, four year or longer extension to do the job he ought be doing now, then how self-motivated is he to begin with? You have been getting away with this kind of loser reasoning WAY FAR too long without your reasoning being checked. The socialist way of providing a failure proof net is a one way ticket to failure. This guy needs to prove he deserves an extension before giving him one. PEROID!

EDIT: As far as the school proving it made a decision to hire the right guy. If that decision wasn't the right decision to begin with (IE a mistake) then why compound that bad choice with another by giving a guy who turned out to be the wrong guy more rope to hang the administration along with himself?

[Geaux]

We upset Central Florida last year. I'd call that a pretty quality win. And we went on an 11 game winning streak 2 years ago wich included some impressive wins over some of the top teams in the Sun Belt that year.

We don't have no where near the talent we had two years ago. Its going to be a long season buddy. I hope I am wrong. We are a long ways from the days of Brad, Orien, Dwayne and Chris. Those guys were fun to watch.

[Bandwagon King]

We upset Central Florida last year. I'd call that a pretty quality win. And we went on an 11 game winning streak 2 years ago wich included some impressive wins over some of the top teams in the Sun Belt that year.

And what was the end result of that work by those players? You did what? You allienated ALL those guys & then replaced them with who? Now you want an EXTENSION!? Oh yeh, one extension coming right up.

[Bandwagon King]

I've already figured out that the school has made it's decision to extend him, or else there wouldn't be a breaking story about him being extended. I will state for the record that I think it is compounding one mistake with another MISTAKE. One being made trying to improve the status of your school, being totally understandable. The other being you realize you may not have the right man for the job & still showing your arrogance by compounding that honest mistake by a fool hearty decision.

[I_Bleed_RED]

And what was the end result of that work by those players? You did what? You allienated ALL those guys & then replaced them with who? Now you want an EXTENSION!? Oh yeh, one extension coming right up.

Well, many of them graduated the following year. Only two of those guys were "alienated"

[I_Bleed_RED]

We don't have no where near the talent we had two years ago. Its going to be a long season buddy. I hope I am wrong. We are a long ways from the days of Brad, Orien, Dwayne and Chris. Those guys were fun to watch.

I never said we did have the talent. He just asked to give one quality win during the Marlin tenure. So I did.

[Turbine]

Biggest crock of crap I ever heard. . .

EDIT: As far as the school proving it made a decision to hire the right guy. If that decision wasn't the right decision to begin with (IE a mistake) then why compound that bad choice with another by giving a guy who turned out to be the wrong guy more rope to hang the administration along with himself?

This was the administrations stance with Robert Lee, Rickey Bustle, and Errol Rogers.

The difference being -when the extensions were offered- none of them had close to a .500 career record at UL.

[Bandwagon King]

Well, many of them graduated the following year. Only two of those guys were "alienated"

Check the record. I believe your numbers are skewed a little. Furthermore, how many alleged felons will be given scholarship offers only to have them rescended by the AD in the future? My position is strictly this. PROVE YOU ARE WORTHY before I/WE commit any mor money to you. Nobody has reasoned yet as to why this is necessary without that reasoning being totally flawed.

[Bandwagon King]

This was the administrations stance with Robert Lee, Rickey Bustle, and Errol Rogers.

The difference being -when the extensions were offered- none of them had close to a .500 career record at UL.

And how did that work out for the school? Are any of those coaches there still? With the exception of hiring HUD, which had absolutely nothing & I MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with continuing to extend Bustle, did it do ANYTHING to make the school more productive or competitive? If so, would someone please provide a list?

[Geaux]

Thank you BK, Thank you very much.

[BananaHammock]

BWK- I'm not super happy with where the program stands at this point but there have been lots of hurdles for all to overcome. He is right at .500, had a bunch of bad apples to get rid of and Robert Lee didn't leave him a whole lot to work with. By letting the guys go (that needed to) he did set himself back but apparently the University supported him and think he made the right decision. Whats the alternative? Keep the bad apples, have them not play worth a darn and let him go after the year? Then we start over once again and try to rebuild.

[I_Bleed_RED]

Check the record. I believe your numbers are skewed a little. Furthermore, how many alleged felons will be given scholarship offers only to have them rescended by the AD in the future? My position is strictly this. PROVE YOU ARE WORTHY before I/WE commit any mor money to you. Nobody has reasoned yet as to why this is necessary without that reasoning being totally flawed.

I feel like you are expecting the immediate success that Hud had on the field. There is a huge difference between the two. Hud was left with some talent to work with. Marlin was left with limited talent and a lot of seniors his first year. So he had to do a complete overhaul last year. He's made some mistakes but he's acknowledged those mistakes and taken the appropriate actions to correct them. I think that warrants a second chance. We're not talking about a raise here. We're just talking about giving him a few extra years to see if he can overcome this. Because chances are he wont be able to do it this year considering the players we've lost.

[Turbine]

And how did that work out for the school? Are any of those coaches there still? With the exception of hiring HUD, which had absolutely nothing & I MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with continuing to extend Bustle, did it do ANYTHING to make the school more productive or competitive? If so, would someone please provide a list?

Irrelevant, I posted those facts because you told Jay "Biggest crock of crap I ever heard" you just weren't listening for the other 3 examples.

Besides, I posted how I felt for the aforementioned extensions.

[Bandwagon King]

I feel like you are expecting the immediate success that Hud had on the field. There is a huge difference between the two. Hud was left with some talent to work with. Marlin was left with limited talent and a lot of seniors his first year. So he had to do a complete overhaul last year. He's made some mistakes but he's acknowledged those mistakes and taken the appropriate actions to correct them. I think that warrants a second chance. We're not talking about a raise here. We're just talking about giving him a few extra years to see if he can overcome this. Because chances are he wont be able to do it this year considering the players we've lost.

I wish more than you do that I wouldn't be making the previous posts I have made. As for immediate success, I was stunned with coach HUD's immediate success. It was a testament to the character of the previous staff's recruits that stuck it out through all the pain of change that HUD demanded. That change did not come with 100% commitment though. There were players who did not make the transition, but were able to see that they could not make the transition & bowed out gracefully. There were still others who realized that the HUD way of doing things wasn't for them at later dates & transferred at the end of the first season. Those are no longer there. Still, those dropoffs did not keep the HUD machine form accomplishing many of it's tasks. The HUD machine is now in it's second season & it is becoming apparent that the commitment level by these young men is once again paying BIG dividends to the school as well as to them personally.

I am not nearly as convinced about the Marlin machine. Here is an opportunity for you or others to educate me. I thought Marlin's initial deal was for five years. If this is not right please correct me. I will ask this question & post my rebuttal to any who may answer, then I will get off this topic unless I need to answer any posts who may challenge my thoughts. It is very simple for me. Why reward mediocrity? The only reasonable conclusion to rewarding mediocrity is the production of more mediocrity. Anyone feel free to rebut. Again, for the record, I hope you guys who are firmly entrenched in Coach Marlin's corner are able to tell me how wrong I was while I'm putting dome foam in your cup at a future date.