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  1. #131

    Default Re: Chances...

    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver
    _ The only HS coach in this area that I would consider hiring works in Iberia parish. Now, that doesn't mean that he is the only one qualified, as it is entirely possible that some others DO exist in Lafayette parish or elsewhere that I don't know about; but none have had the level of success that this one has had, particularly with 'technique event' athletes [hurdles, vault, javelin, discus, triple jump, and to a lesser extent high jump, shot and relays]; and it is my honest opinion [shared by MANY knowledgable track professionals] that those events are where conference meets are won or lost.

    In a 10 year span at a class A high school, this coach produced 3 HS All-America javelin throwers [all 200'+ throwers], two state champion triple jumpers [one of whom was a composite state record holder], two state champion long jumpers, four state hurdles champions, two pole vault state champions, a high jump state champion and nearly 20 other D1 track athletes. At other schools, he has produced many more throwers, jumpers and hurdlers who have gone on to compete collegiately.

    If this particular guy applied, and I was in charge of hiring, I might even consider him for the HC position.

    All that being said, being a track coach, even an assistant, at the D1 level requires much more work than being a track coach in HS. If it is to be done right, it must be done with full-time coaches. I am not AGAINST what you are saying, I am only saying that we should do that only as a last resort if the U can't or won't furnish the $$$ necessary to do it right. We have gone the $9K part time route before, and unless you have a Charles Lancon at the helm it doesn't work.

    And there just ain't that many Charles Lancon's. _
    You are right. In fact, there are none. All the more reason not to even consider a HS coach. Only a coach with recruiting ties to some JC's to kick start it and then to get atheltes with strong work ethics, size and more than 5th place in a class A Lousiana State Meet.

    With all due respect, Iberia Parish has no one that this school should be considering, unless we want next to last place instead of last. All the Iberai coach has done is squeeze everyhitng form these kids in HS. How many have gone to an NCAA? THAT is the REAL measure.

  2. #132

    This is so COOL Re: Chances...

    Quote Originally Posted by VObserver
    _ I would like to see all three of those in the Cajun fold. I know it won't happen, but I would like to see it. Silve is one of the best track coaches ever at any level, and the other two guys are also proven, successful coaches.

    I will say it again. We could have hired the best jumps coach in the country when Charles died, but the U refused to pay him his very modest salary request, and refused to give him enough money to hire good assistants. This time around, if indeed there is going to be a coaching change, we MUST be willing to put as much University money into coaching salaries for track as we currently spend on the entire track budget. That would let us about double the head coach pay, and give us enough to pay maybe $30K each for three assistants [you need four coaches: sprints/hurdles, distance, jumps, throws]. Maybe, just maybe, the recent actions by the UL system and the State to allow schools to spend about double what was previously allowed of State money on athletics, will allow us to do this.

    As for re-naming the facility; don't hold your breath. I understand there are political considerations at work that are holding that up. _
    I thought you knew a lot about UL track.. If you did, you'd know ther naming thing is a done deal. The only reminaing problem is getting folks like yourself used to pronouncing the word C-O-L-E before the word L-A-S-C-O-N)

  3. #133

    Track & Field Re: Chances...

    Quote Originally Posted by houndoggy1
    _ I thought you knew a lot about UL track.. If you did, you'd know ther naming thing is a done deal. The only reminaing problem is getting folks like yourself used to pronouncing the word C-O-L-E before the word L-A-S-C-O-N) _
    I know how to spell Cole. I even know who Bob Cole is. I also don't have a problem putting his name somewhere in there.

    As for the rest of the garbage you spout, No one on this board has been talking about winning an NCAA championship, or sending people to the NCAA's. We have been talking about winning the conference. And without throws, we would never have won a conference meet. Not even when your hero Cole was here. We have scored a few points on the track in some years, but whether you like it or not, our championships have been won by folks who jumped somewhere or threw something.

    Also, unless you happen to be psychic you don't even know who I was talking about in Iberia Parish. In any event, there are other considerations there which preclude his being hired [or applying for that matter]. Oh, and that was 10 consecutive years of no worse than 5th, 8 of which were 3rd or better, including a Championship.. He was also HC at a 4A school that was state runner-up twice, and at a Mississippi school which won a state title there.

  4. This is Upsetting Re: 5 more Ragin' Cajuns Qualify for NCAA Regional meet

    Quote Originally Posted by cajuntrack

    I have to say as a current UL track athlete, we did better competing this year at conference. We may have gotten last AGAIN but ........... we were a TEAM this year. ..........ACTED as a TEAM .................but we ALL have heart. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

    Until next year, we hope we can make our fans happier. This is only the beginning!

    I RECEIVED THIS IN MY PM BOX SHORTLY AFTER MY SECOND POST TODAY AND THUS HAD TO DELETE WHAT I SAID EARLIER. I DON'T KNOW WHY I WASTE MY TIME, I JUST GET ____ED I GUESS. I KNOW NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE. THIS IS THE MESSAGE I GOT IN MY PM BOX............

    "Defamation is "the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may harm the reputation of an individual, business, product, group, government or nation." Louisiana is a jurisdiction thaqt does not tolerate such behavior and pushes its courts to deal liberally with this behavior.

    The common law origins of defamation lie in the torts of slander (harmful statement in a transitory form, especially speech) and libel (harmful statement in a fixed medium, especially writing but also a picture, sign, or electronic broadcast), each of which gives a common law right of action.

    The fundamental distinction between libel and slander lies solely in the form in which the defamatory matter is published. If the offending material is published in some fleeting form, as by spoken words or sounds, sign language, gestures and the like, then this is slander. If it is published in more durable form, for example in written words, internet postings, and the like, then it is considered libel.

    The purpose of my message is to advise that your remarks regarding _____ ____ are deemed defamatory and make you subject to possible civil penalties imposed by juries when unable to support your comments with fact.

    That being said, you are requested to retract your comments, and cause any copies of your remarks by other parties to likewise be removed.

    By entering this website, you have mistakenly assumed that your identity is hidden. By refusing to retract your remarks publically, exposure of your identity will most certainly be forthcoming and appropriate civil action taken.

    You shoule know that there is no defense when such utterances or written remarks are false.

    Please act now to correct this careless act on your part. If you have any questions regarding Louisiana civil statutes, please direct your email to me at AcadianaLaw@lawyer.com , attention: Bennett C. Lyle"

  5. #135

    Default Re: 5 more Ragin' Cajuns Qualify for NCAA Regional meet

    Quote Originally Posted by houndoggy1
    _ Throws? Excuse me, but no UL track team ever made it to any NCAA meet in throwing events. Kinda like the worse part of track is FIELD. ARHHHH! _
    Wrong. I went there twice in the 90's in the javelin throw. Eugene OR and Austin TX

  6. #136

    Track & Field Re: 5 more Ragin' Cajuns Qualify for NCAA Regional meet

    Quote Originally Posted by cajun4ever
    _ Wrong. I went there twice in the 90's in the javelin throw. Eugene OR and Austin TX _
    4, houndoggy is just an a**hat with an agenda. He has no clue about how to actually win a conference meet, nor does he know anything about the history of the program. He THINKS he does, of course, but that's another story.

  7. Track & Field Re: 5 more Ragin' Cajuns Qualify for NCAA Regional meet

    okay so you want to bash _____ ____, well I have known her for a very long time to know that her injuries date back to high school. for one, she has exercised enduced asthma. which means when it is cold, rainy with humidity, or when the grass is freshly cut, she has an attack. (how can you hold that against somebody?) 2. she has a missing L-5 in her back which she strained her sophomore year here which is the reason why she has quad/hamstring problems. 3. she has 3 stress fractures in her left foot and that is why she was on crutches. ( she wanted to try the intermediate hurdles and coach veazey allowed her. coming down on her left foot after jumping over the hurdles 3 months ago is the reason for her injury) i was with her in the training room when she got her MRI results from the trainers. oh and by the way, SHE DOES GO TO THE TRAINING ROOM EVERYDAY! her shoulder injury...she never had an injury...she slept on it wrong. i remember b/c she slept at my house. just stop talking about her. she did nothing to you.

    another things, you are right about all the drama on the team. i was there when those things were said with the confrontation b/w the two athletes. what i meant was that we were more of a team with eachother. we were getting along more and were caring more how everyone did in competition. we have problems. it is apparent. we know.


  8. This is so COOL Re: 5 more Ragin' Cajuns Qualify for NCAA Regional meet

    Quote Originally Posted by cajuntrack
    okay so you want to bash _____ ____, well I have known her for a very long time to know that her injuries date back to high school. for one, she has exercised enduced asthma. which means when it is cold, rainy with humidity, or when the grass is freshly cut, she has an attack. (how can you hold that against somebody?) 2. she has a missing L-5 in her back which she strained her sophomore year here which is the reason why she has quad/hamstring problems. 3. she has 3 stress fractures in her left foot and that is why she was on crutches. ( she wanted to try the intermediate hurdles and coach veazey allowed her. coming down on her left foot after jumping over the hurdles 3 months ago is the reason for her injury) i was with her in the training room when she got her MRI results from the trainers. oh and by the way, SHE DOES GO TO THE TRAINING ROOM EVERYDAY! her shoulder injury...she never had an injury...she slept on it wrong. i remember b/c she slept at my house. just stop talking about her. she did nothing to you.

    another things, you are right about all the drama on the team. i was there when those things were said with the confrontation b/w the two athletes. what i meant was that we were more of a team with eachother. we were getting along more and were caring more how everyone did in competition. we have problems. it is apparent. we know.
    ****I had to delete the first part of my post (see top of page)*********

    NOW, I'll tell you the kind of people I have respect for. I have 2 great examples. First is Luke Moody. For those of you that do not know Luke broke his leg (a clean break right through the skin) while high jumping at the indoor conference meet in 2006. Luke then had a metal rod placed in his leg and about 12 weeks later he began walking. Shortly after this Luke was trying to regain his fitness on the bike and in the pool. Luke trained his butt off. Luke did NOT look for excuses (he has a dang rod in his leg for Christ sake!). Instead, Luke looked for a reason to GET BETTER, the exact opposite of what most people, (can't mention name) included, do. Luke has had an impressive outdoor season this year after breaking his leg just over one year ago. Luke is one of the hardest working athletes out there. He is one of the first to show up, and almost always the last one to leave!

    Secondly is Kayla Vice. Kayla signed her letter of intent at UL going into her senior year of high school track season. The week of her district meet Kayla tore her ACL while pole vaulting, which of course ended her season. Kayla had surgery just after tearing her ACL and began recovery. She wanted to prove that she is a great athlete. Then, during her freshman year at UL, Kayla was forced to undergo a SECOND surgery to repair her ACL. There were complications after the first surgery. Kayla trained her butt off and looked for a reason to excel. After months of rehab and months of non-stop pole vaulting, AND LESS THAN ONE YEAR after her SECOND ACL surgery, Kayla Vice WON the Sun Belt Conference Championship in the pole vault. With all of the odds against her, Kayla persevered and looked for a reason to keep going. She did not look for a reason to drop out of her workout.


    HERE IS A POEM that my coach gave me in high school. I try to live by the words of this poem and I think it would be good for you to read it. It's called "NO EXCUSES".

    Any excuse for non-performance, however valid, softens the character. It is a sedative against one's own conscience. When a man uses an excuse, he attempts to convince both himself and others that unsatisfactory performance is somehow acceptable. He is - perhaps unconsciously - attempting to divert attention from perfomance; the only thing that counts is his own want for sympathy. The user is dishonest with himself as well as others. No matter how good or how valid, the excuse never changes the performance.
    The world measures success in terms of performance alone. No man is remembered in history for what he would have accomplished. History never ask how hard it was to do the job, nor considers the obstacles that had to be overcome. It never measures the handicaps. It counts only one thing - PERFORMANCE. No man ever performend a worthwile task without consciously ignoring many a plausible excuse.
    To use an excuse is a habit. We cannot have both the performance habit and the excuse habit. We all have a supply of excuses. The more we usue them the lower become our standards, the poorer our performance. The better we perform, the less plausible our excuses become.
    Next time you want to defend you sub-par performance, say instead (at least to yourself) NO EXCUSES!!!

    THE END

  9. Default Re: 5 more Ragin' Cajuns Qualify for NCAA Regional meet

    Joel I appreciate your candor but I wish you had stuck to this statement a little more.

    Quote Originally Posted by JoelJP45
    First of all, I would like to say that I am in NO WAY putting down any current UL track and field athletes

  10. Default Re: UL's Arceneaux hopes to shine at conference

    Quote Originally Posted by houndoggy1
    _ Nice article for an athlete who is jumping ship and transferring to a Texas school. He's seen enough of the tight discipline, exceptional workouts teaching running strategy and increased chances for breaking 10-flat in the 100-meters. Good ridance. Northside has yet to produce anyone of merit in track & field. Perhaps the Texas school can break that string. the best of luck to the 2nd smart`(The 1st quit and went to LSU 2 years ago when he saw the writing on the wall.) Now we see chapter two of the saga. _
    So, that make 4 people that are leaving the UL team? 3 distance runners and 1 sprinter? I wonder how many others will end up leaving, the next few weeks should be telling.

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