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    We just have to face the fact that the "big" schools will ALWAYS get the benefit of the doubt over us. Even if we win a national title or two. Sad but true.


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    I disagree there. When you start winning national titles you get respect. We have not done that yet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by anhil8tor View Post
    I disagree there. When you start winning national titles you get respect. We have not done that yet.
    Well hopefully we find out who's right next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DieHard1280 View Post
    We just have to face the fact that the "big" schools will ALWAYS get the benefit of the doubt over us. Even if we win a national title or two. Sad but true.
    Couple of things here. PAC 12 had eight schools, and the SEC had nine schools. Maybe Washington did not deserve a number one seeding, I agree on that. The committee tried to make sure that as few of the SEC, PAC 12, and Big 12 schools met members of their own conference in the first round as possible, and that carries though all the way to the WCWS. They want PAC 12, SEC, and Big 12 teams there.

    I pretty much got into a dissagreement with Jay on the radio about how the selection committee will use whatever criteria they want when it comes to placing and seeding. His view, at least to me, was that they use a varitey of backgrounds, and criteria to come to their decisions. I told him they love to use whatever criteria fits their motive to stack these things. He got pretty ticked off on that comment. So we left it at that, opposing opinions.

    I am pretty sure ASU is a confident team no matter who comes to Tempe just like UL would be for teams to Lafayette, but I gotta believe down deep they felt like we got underseeded and were not happy to see that we were their most likely opponent. I will put it this way and ask this question? Does anybody think ASU his happier hosting UL than Mizzou? They know who should have been the number nine seed or better. Does anybody think LSU was not happier going to College Station than Lafayette? So maybe we should be the number eight seed in their eyes, and glad we were misseeded.

    Long and short 1280 you are right. The selection committee will always favor the PAC 12 until the SEC takes over just like they have done in almost every sport. But these two conferences will be taken care of, and schools like UL will have to be a lot better to win, we will never play on an even field getting to the WCWS, or any other final.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    The committee tried to make sure that as few of the SEC, PAC 12, and Big 12 schools met members of their own conference in the first round as possible, and that carries though all the way to the WCWS. They want PAC 12, SEC, and Big 12 teams there.
    You cant have 2 members of the same conference in a regional. They do spread them out if they can, but most regionals had at least a member of 2 of the 3 big conferences due to the sheer number of teams that made it. Also, since most of these teams get the artificial RPI boost in conference, many get seeded as a #1 or #2, so that helps to spread them out.

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    I've been thinking about this. We are all pretty disappointed that we have to travel to the West and take on the #3 seed and defending national champ. Doesn't really seem fair to this team. But what is Arizona State thinking? The #3 national seed obviously gets to host a Super Regional, but how ____ed they must be to have to play a 51-4 team that spanked them 9-2 earlier this year? We got a raw deal, but they also got royally screwed.


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    The bottom line is, if the goal is to be National Champs, then you have to beat them all at some point, so does it matter when you beat them? We will do what we have done all season, and play hard til the end. If you lose in the Supers or lose 2 in the WCWS, you still do not accomplish the ultimate goal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LOVAQUE View Post
    The bottom line is, if the goal is to be National Champs, then you have to beat them all at some point, so does it matter when you beat them?
    Why do people say and believe this? No, you do not have to beat them all. Not even close. Just ask LSU, who will probably get to the WCWS without playing a single team as good as 3 of the ones that stood in our path (ASU, Stanford and Baylor).

    You do not have to "beat them all" to win the National Championship. Otherwise, why seed at all? Let's just draw out of a hat at random. So what if Cal, Alabama, ASU and Louisiana all get into a regional together? You have to beat them all, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jllanclos View Post
    Why do people say and believe this? No, you do not have to beat them all. Not even close. Just ask LSU, who will probably get to the WCWS without playing a single team as good as 3 of the ones that stood in our path (ASU, Stanford and Baylor).

    You do not have to "beat them all" to win the National Championship. Otherwise, why seed at all? Let's just draw out of a hat at random. So what if Cal, Alabama, ASU and Louisiana all get into a regional together? You have to beat them all, right?
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by jllanclos View Post
    Why do people say and believe this? No, you do not have to beat them all. Not even close. Just ask LSU, who will probably get to the WCWS without playing a single team as good as 3 of the ones that stood in our path (ASU, Stanford and Baylor).

    You do not have to "beat them all" to win the National Championship. Otherwise, why seed at all? Let's just draw out of a hat at random. So what if Cal, Alabama, ASU and Louisiana all get into a regional together? You have to beat them all, right?
    Ditto. +1

    You don't have to beat them all.

    You have to beat the system.
    and the system can be beat.

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